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Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.
ok this is a suit on request so that's
it I heard on one occasion the blessed
one was Vivian sawatya in Jettas girl
benetton pendejas park then the
carpenter pancha conga went to the
venerable who died and after paying
homage to him sat down at one side and
ask him venerable sir how many kinds of
feeling have been stated by the blessed
one three kinds of feeling have been
stated by the Blessed One householder
pleasant feeling painful feeling and
neither painful nor pleasant feeling
these three kinds of feeling have been
stated by the blessed one not three
kinds of feeling have been stated by the
Blessed One venerable who died and two
kinds of feeling have been stated by the
blessed one pleasant feeling and painful
feeling this neither painful nor
pleasant feeling has been stated by the
Blessed One as a peaceful and sublime
kind of pleasure a second time in a
third time the venerable who Diane
stated his position the second and third
time the carpenter poncho conga stated
his this carpenter was he was basically
living in the monastery and he was the
fix-it man in Maine builder venerable or
jetta the of Jettas Grove when he got
all of this money from an attempt indica
he started building a lot
different structures on on the on the
land that's what he did with the money
and he had hired panja conga as his
carpenter builder of handyman so he was
always hanging around whenever the
Buddha gave the discourse he would go
listen to it it's one of the advantages
of being in a monastery you get to hear
lots and lots of different discourses so
that's why he was feeling fairly good
about refuting what venerable who died
in it said the venerable Ananda heard
their conversation then he went to the
Blessed One after paying homage to him
he sat down at one side and reported to
the Blessed One the entire conversation
between the venerable who Diane and the
carpenter panja conga when it was
finished the Blessed One told the
venerable Ananda Ananda it was actually
a true presentation that the carpenter
panja conga would not accept from who
diet and it was actually a true
presentation that who Diane would not
accept from the carpenter panja conga I
have stated two kinds of feeling in one
presentation I've stated three kinds of
feeling in another presentation I've
stated five kinds of feeling in another
presentation five kinds of feeling in
Pali its Duke asuka-dono gnosis oh
manasa Pekka in English it's painful
physical feeling Pleasant physical
feeling painful mental feeling Pleasant
mental feeling and equanimity
so that's the five dollar feelings that
he did in one presentation I have stated
six kinds of feeling and another
presentation what are the six kinds of
feeling read it to yester yeah I've
stated 18 kinds of feeling in another
presentation what are 18 kinds of
feeling well the six cents stores with
lesson unpleasant and neither Pleasant
or unpleasant catchy sharp well done
I've stated 36 kinds of feeling in
another presentation jeez 36 yeah yes
that's that's a difficult one that they
have to go to another suit to get to 30
okay you're gonna make me do it aren't
you where is it 40 minutes it's 2 times
18 years Five Guys times six doors
that's 30 okay oh it's five feelings
that those six cent stores that's 30 Oh
Thursday I wasn't there stuff on this
one because he's asking for 36 there's
no so there's six that we're not killing
and I success oh don't mind you know
there's six doors and mines one of them
so it's time
is 30 I don't remember the number of the
suit up getting old fra fra did I read
did I write it up the page no you lose
that just check the other patients
well we're somewhere in the higher
numbers I chances with this football
says the 36 kinds are the 36 positions
of beings the six kinds of joy greed
equanimity your answer each based and
it's on the mud and then 137 137 a
little quick releases positions of teens
lines night 15 0 seconds 90 13 yeah
there are six kinds of joy based on the
household life and six kinds of joy
based on renunciation there are six
kinds of grief based on the household
life and six kinds of grief based on
renunciation there are six kinds of
equanimity based on the household life
and six kinds of equanimity based on
renunciation 36 am I going to go into
all of this okay you want the page
number he said MN 3017 set 191 and 30 so
oh what's MN 1 37 minutes second nine to
15 section money okay and I have stated
a hundred and eight kinda feel and
another reason and this is avi dama and
I don't touch on thank you so we'll let
that one slide
okay according to the footnote it says
the hundred and eight kinds of feeling
are the previous 36 kinds of feeling as
referred to present past present and
future that is how the Dhamma has been
shown by me in different presentations
when the Dhamma has thus been shown by
me in different presentations it may be
expected of those who will not concede
allow and accept what is well stated and
well spoken by others that they will be
they will take two quarreling brawling
disputing and the infamous stabbing each
other with verbal daggers but it may be
expected of those who can see allow and
accept what is well stated and well
spoken by others that they will live in
Concord and mutual appreciation without
is Benton disputing with the infamous
blending like milk and water viewing
each other with kindly eyes another
there are five cords of sensual pleasure
what are the five forms cognizable by
the eye that are wished for desired
agreeable and likeable connected with
sensual desire and provocative of lust
sounds cognizable by the ear odors
cognizable by the nose flavors
cognizable by the tongue tangibles
cognizable by the body that are wished
for desired agreeable and Michael
connected with
sexual desire and provocative of lust
these are the five chords of sensual
pleasure now the pleasure enjoyed that
arise dependent on these five chords of
sensual pleasure are called sensual
pleasure thanks good sense them yet why
isn't mind objects there because these
are the physical sense doors should
anyone say that is the utmost pleasure
and joy that beings experience I would
not concede that to him why is that
because there's another kind of pleasure
lofty ER and more sublime than that
pleasure and what is that other kind of
pleasure here Ananda quite secluded from
sensual pleasures secluded from
unwholesome states a monk enters upon
and abides in the first jhana which is
accompanied by thinking and examining
thought with joy and happiness born of
seclusion that is the other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure so what we're
talking about here is yes there is
pleasure with the sense doors but it's
really low in course especially when you
start getting into mental development
should anyone say that this is the
utmost joy that beings experience I
would not concede that to him why is
that because there's another kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
that pleasure and what is that other
kind of pleasure here Ananda with the
stilling of thinking and examining
thought a monk enters upon and abides in
the second Drona which has
self-confidence and stillness of mind
and without thinking and examining
thought with joy and happiness born of
collectiveness this is the other kind of
pleasure loftier and more supply than
the previous pleasure now you most of
you have experienced going into the
second truck and when you get into the
second jhana if you keep trying to
verbalize the wish you start having
pretty intense headache and that means
that you're trying too hard you have to
let go of the wish and then just feel
the wish you can use a one word helper
peace calm happiness clear tranquil
joy cheerful whatever word you want to
use as long as it brings up that feeling
and then you take that feeling and put
it in your heart and you take your
spiritual friend and put your spiritual
friend right in the middle of that
feeling and surround your friend with
that feeling of peace calm happiness
whatever it happens to be that your wish
is and you give them a heart hug very
gentle and you stay with that feeling
and relax any tension or tightness stay
with that feeling until it starts to
fade away when it fades away and your
mind begins to wander to something else
then you use the six RS and recognize
that your mind is going away release
that that means don't keep your
attention on the distraction relax the
tightness caused by minds attention
moving from one thing to another then
excuse me smile
that's that simple just smile and then
come back to your object meditation why
do you smile because it's easier to have
a light alert agile mind when your mind
is uplifted smiling is a very necessary
part of this practice and the more you
can smile into whatever you're doing
during your daily activities you are
practicing a part of the Eightfold Path
I call it harmonious practice most
people call it right effort letting go
of an unwholesome state brings vaccine
smiling coming back to your object to
meditation stay with the smile and your
object of meditation as long as you can
now your daily activities when you get
out of retreat your object of meditation
with your daily activities can be just
smiling but occasionally wish everybody
happiness and it's not just a smile with
the lips it's a smile with a lips a
smile with the mind a smile with your
eyes and a smile in your heart the more
you practice smiling the more balance
you have
your mind and with that balance there's
more clarity and you start developing
joy you start developing that uplifted
mind so that you have it uplifted all of
the time then your mindfulness improves
immeasurably you're able to see when
your mind starts to heavy out and you
can make the conscious decision right
there to come back to the right effort
or not if you want to suffer looks like
I know a few people that really like to
suffer they don't want to give it up but
the more you can soften your mind and
the more you can have joy arise the
easier everything becomes in your life
you know there's a lot of prosperity
books out there how to manifest you want
to know how to manifest be happy it's
that simple when I went to Australia I
happen to go on the shortest day of the
year in Australia and I left from
Malaysia now the shortest day of the
year in Australia is rather cool it's
not cold but it's it's cool and I was
completely unprepared for it and I was
walking around with sandals with no
socks and I had the thought you know it
would really be nice if I had some warm
feet but I don't so I just kind of truck
'old into it and did what I was going to
do and I wound up going to the Burmese
monastery just outside of Sydney and the
first thing that monk did when I walked
in was gave me a pair of socks I was
completely happy you know that that's
the highest ambition in my life is to
have one here what format and about a
week later all of a sudden
I had a dozen pair of zombies and I
started walking around going no I don't
need any more cider my finger warm
enough that's enough and to this day I
have socks coming up here it's truly
amazing I had three pair of socks to
start this trip that's all I have that's
all I need I don't want any more I now
have 25 do you want to manifest be happy
but I guess you have to be grumpy to
turn it off the more you put happiness
into what you're doing while you're
doing it the more content your money
comes the more you want to start sharing
your happiness with other people so you
practice smiling all the time that is
following the full path that will help
your practice in city how many times
does your mind get serious I know some
people that it's pretty regular
but when you have a serious mind what is
that same I have an attachment I want to
control things and have things bb-8 I
want them to be when I want them that
way no questions asked when you're able
to smile more into what you're doing you
become aware of not only how you cause
your own pain when things don't happen
the way you want them to but the pain
that you caused other people because
you're trying to push and force things
to be the way you want them so you get a
bonus you're not only cause pain to
yourself you get to cause pain to
somebody else but that does not lead to
an uplifted mind that does not lead to
an alert mind that leads to a mind that
is heavy and you start taking all of
your thoughts and all of your feelings
so personally and that's the cause of
frustration and frustration leads to
depression and depression leads to
extreme sadness and what's the fun in
that
so the more we can practice having that
uplift in mind all of the time the
easier it is to see when your mind
heavies out and when you mind heavies
out there's a couple things that happens
one is you become less efficient that
what you're doing while you're doing it
and there's real disappointment that
happens because you can't manifest it
exactly the way you want to manifest and
that leads to being pulled out of the
present moment and before long you're a
thousand miles away not paying attention
to what you're doing while you're doing
it which can be real dangerous if you're
cutting vegetables or using a knife for
some reason or what happens when
somebody says something to you and you
get angry and you walk out and you start
thinking about that no-good so-and-so
and you get in the car and you start
driving are you driving or are you
thinking how do you think accidents
occur
the more you get involved in your
dissatisfaction of the present moment
the less you're in the present moment
and the more pain you caused yourself
and other people around you so whats the
remedy practice smiling somebody sent me
a video about this doctor he was healing
people left and right in India and one
of the guys that used to be with body
Monty Python I can't remember his name
John even God please yeah he went to
India to check out this doctor and he
made a little movie of it and this
doctor would have 30 or 40 people
standing around in the circle making
faces at each other and laughing and
just he showed them all different ways
of laughing and all of a sudden their
body got in balance and their mind was
in balance and the diseases started
going away there's all kinds of
wonderful things that happen in your
body when you left and what's the first
part of laughing smiley
when you start doing this you start to
gain a lot of self-confidence you start
saying hey this stuff works and that
self-confidence is not only occurring
while you're sitting in your meditation
it is occurring throughout the day you
feel like you're really starting to
understand how your mind works and
that's when the oh wow is starting to
happen Wow look at that that is how it
works when I laugh I go from I am that
too it's only that so guess what I'm
pushing guess what I want you to do when
you go home I want you to sit in
meditation but you better be smiling
I'll get my psychic stick out Nicki
giggle
I don't really have a say you just did
goddess ok so should anyone say that
there is another pleasure loftier and
more sublime words of that they put the
dot dot def not in the wrong spots there
as far as I can see should anyone say
the utmost pleasure enjoy that this is
the utmost pleasure enjoy that being
beings experience I would not concede
that to him why is that because there's
another kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than that pleasure and what
is that other kind of pleasure here
Amanda with the fading away as well of
joy a mock abides in equanimity mindful
and fully aware still feeling pleasure
with the body he enters upon and abides
in the third drama on account of which
noble ones announce he has a pleasant
abiding who has equanimity and his
mindful this is that other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure so the joy doesn't
arise anymore as your mind starts to
calm down but you still feel very strong
comfort in your mind and in your body
and you begin to feel a very nice
sense of mental balance the equanimity
that we're talking about here is you can
be sitting in the meditation and a
motorcycle can come right outside the
door without a muffler on and your mind
won't necessarily shake and start
getting caught up in the I don't like
sand I want it to be different than it
is the equanimity helps your mind have a
sense of balance so you hear that sound
but it doesn't make your mind react now
this is an interesting thing that is the
full awareness the full awareness is a
major thing to know about so that you
can tell the difference between
absorption concentration and tranquil
wisdom constant collectiveness when you
get to the third jhana with absorption
concentration you do not feel your body
at all your mind stays glued on your
object of meditation whatever that
happens to be I can come along with a
gun right beside your ear and fire it
and you wouldn't hear it I can take a
stick and I can beat you over the head
and you wouldn't feel it is that full
awareness is that awareness of anything
than the object of meditation no full
awareness means that if I come up and I
touch you when you're practicing the
summit of the parsonage on us you would
feel that doesn't make your mind shake
that you would feel it you would feel
ants walking across your head and that
reminds me of something that happened
when I was in Burma there I was
practicing the street vipassana and one
of the teachers mentioned that sometimes
it feels like ants are walking all over
your body so I'm sitting in meditation
and all of a sudden I'm feeling ants all
over and I'm going oh oh this is not so
good but the teachers said just just
noted number about 10 minutes some of
the answers starting to bite so I
started thinking mister this can't be
right and I looked down at my hands and
there must have been 500 m and they were
crawling up my arms and God just and
decided that I didn't like that
meditation it's that moment if I
couldn't tell the difference between
real lance and meditation ants
but I found out from that experience
that the the Chinese make this truck it
has a propellant in it and you draw a
circle around you and the ants won't
won't cross that line which is great
except what they do is they go over the
wall and they go up the wall and then go
over the ceiling and they are very good
at dive Bobby you can't get away from
the ants and Asian they don't that's why
we couldn't find it what tell it anymore
they're doing the Asian thing is toxic
it's time signal was an Asian no of
course it is what keeps him away where's
the play dynasty no you don't put it on
windows right you put a circle around
you and I don't care i'd rather have
that circle of toxic around me than the
ants crawling on me as you start going
deeper in your meditation you start
losing tension in your bot in your mind
as you lose tension in your mind you
start losing tension in your body when
you lose tension in your body you stop
feeling different parts of your body
burn my hands go I don't have any leg
feels like my head is just sitting on
the floor so one of the students told me
one time
but if something do you feel a breeze
you will feel that when there is contact
so it's not that you lose the sensations
in your body as an awful lot of people
that practice one pointed concentration
try to convince you that that's the
right way to do the meditation you still
have full awareness and you remember
that chart that I showed you a little
while back about the four foundations of
mindfulness and the five aggregates
being the same and then right underneath
it there's the hindrances when your
mindfulness waivers or becomes week
ahead rents will arise when a hindrance
arises you are no longer in the jhana
now you have to work with that enron's
letting it go back thing ah smiling
returning to your object to meditation
and keeping it going
the hindrances help you very much they
are not the enemy to fight with and this
is another major difference between
people that practice different forms of
one-pointed concentration or absorption
concentration and the summative a
positive person who's practicing a
collective mind when a hindrance arises
for someone practicing one-pointed
concentration they generally try to
fight the hindrance they don't like the
hindrances they want them to stop they
try to push them away and this makes
mine tighter and tighter and tighter but
person practicing one-pointed
concentration because they're not used
to seeing that they won't even recognize
that their mind is tight yeah headaches
don't mean if I try hard thing
eventually yes you do but I'm talking
about it first right now before getting
to the absorption and before getting to
what they call access concentration
access concentration is kind of a medium
kind of concentration but the force of
the concentration is strong enough to
suppress the hindrances and if you try
to bring the hindrance up into your mind
your mind will say nope and just drop it
that's one of the ways you test to see
whether you're an access concentration
or not it seems like it's a good thing
and now I don't have any
this is now I have this pure mind that I
can continue watching but there's still
the tension and tightness that is not
seen when you're practicing the summit
of a Posada meditation you don't have a
stage right before the jhana you have a
hindrance right before the Johnny and
you have to learn how to handle that
relax into it allow it to be keep coming
back to your object to meditation until
that hindrance disappears when it
disappears there's a sense of relief
there's joy there's happiness there's
collectiveness of mind unification of
life going from one drama to the next
the hindrance when your mindfulness
waivers a little bit the hindrance comes
up and now you have to work with this
one and you get into the second drum and
then your mindfulness waivers a little
bit now you have another Henry and when
you let that go you get into the next
drama and the next drum in the next jump
and it happens all the way through the
hindrances show you where your
attachments are show you how you
identify with that thought feeling
concept opinion ideas story and
causes payments that relax step that one
little extra step foot into the
absorption concentration will change
that absorption concentration into
summit ave pizana collectiveness you
will not go as deep in the concentration
but you will get as still you will feel
very strong peace and calm and very
tranquil but like the Buddha before the
dawn came enlightened he practiced one
pointed concentration because that's the
only kind of meditation that was around
and he went as far as he could go with
the two different teachers that were
teaching and he was not satisfied with
those practices he saw that there was
still things that were coming up so he
went off for six years looking for how
to attain me but the the Bodhisattva was
truly an amazing being because he was so
very intelligent when he was taught the
meditation he'd learned it very quickly
and he went through all the stages of
the meditation he went through all of
the jhanas very quickly week 10 days
but it wasn't satisfied because he saw
that there's still something there even
though he became one of the most
advanced meditators in the world at that
time he wasn't satisfied with what was
he was practicing now during that time
there were a lot of people that said
well you gotta fast and only eat this
kind of food and then you'll become
enlightened and he did those kind of
things he lost huge amounts of weight he
cut down the amount of food till he was
taking so little that his body became so
we could hardly stand and with each one
of those different things he realized I
went as far as anybody can go with this
practice and nobody can go further than
this and I'm not satisfied with it so
I'm going to stop and he did it with all
these different kinds of food and there
was a practice during the time of the
Buddha about holding your breath
actually Sai Baba teaches a form of
meditation life that's holding your
breath and he went as far as anybody
could go with holding his breath and he
saw that that didn't work so he let that
practice go one of the things they do in
India when you do the holding breath
meditation you know that little
partition underneath your tongue they
cut it so they can swallow their tongue
and that way they won't have any air
coming up in their ears or in there and
in their mouth or nose so they learn
swallow their tongue make sure one go to
Indian try it in so you can see that all
of these different kinds of practices
that the bodhi said to did they were all
very they were very much practiced as
ways to become enlightened this is one
of the tricky things about the word
enlightened because I tell you something
you don't know I've enlightened dude
right but the Buddha became awake he
didn't walk around and bring world
anymore he became so awake as to how the
process works that has mine let go of
all of the fetters he could see the
matrix he could see the matrix and then
he could stop bullets just by think why
don't you try
haha stock while Elton's well you know
the one of the advantages of practicing
loving-kindness meditation it says in
the books that I'm tricking to try is
that poisons will not harm you fire will
not harm you and weapons will not harm
you I'm not going to try those things to
see whether they really work or not
there is the the when I was in Burma and
there was a monk in one of the villages
he became very famous it was sitting in
in his Hut doing meditation he was
practicing absorption concentration and
he was practicing meta at the time and
his hot caught on fire and it burned to
the ground and all of the other monks
around they were so worried about this
monk and the monk when they started
clearing stuff away he was sitting there
in his meditation didn't he didn't even
burn his clothes does that happen with
sama Toby Posada I don't know what I
don't want to find out but that happened
for him and I don't want to take any
poisons to see whether it really works
or not you certainly don't want anybody
pointing a gun at me so some of the
things we have to take on faith at least
I do i'm not going to test them anyway
should anyone say that this is the
utmost pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there is another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure
here Ananda with the abandoning of
pleasure in pain with the abandoning of
pleasure in pain what we need to do is
add gross pleasure and gross pain when
you're in the 4th jhana you will still
feel some sensations but they don't make
your mind feet and with the previous
disappearance of joy joy and grief a
monk enters upon and abides in the
fourth drama which has neither pain nor
pleasure because of the equanimity if
you don't import these things and purity
of mindfulness due to equanimity this is
that other kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than previous pleasure when
when you get into the 4th jhana you are
not able to radiate loving kindness from
your heart anymore you start radiating
loving kindness from your head that's
one way to tell whether you're in that
drought up or not you feel very strong
balance of mind you feel very very
little of your body if you put your
attention on different places in your
body you'll be able to feel it but when
you keep your mind on your object of
meditation and keep radiating
loving kindness you won't feel your body
at that time now people practicing
mindfulness of breathing and they get to
the 4th jhana if they're practicing
absorption concentration they will tell
you that you're no longer able to
breathe through your lungs anymore that
the breath comes through the air comes
through your ears that does not happen
with the summative episode on meditation
you are still able to see the breath in
two places you've always seen it before
it becomes a little bit more subtle but
you're still available to see the breath
when you get into the 4th jhana I
generally will tell people that that's
what I want them to start relating
loving kindness to different spiritual
friends and then family members and then
neutral persons and then enemies after
they do all of that then I will tell
them to start radiating loving kindness
in the six different directions in front
behind to the right to the left above
below and then all the directions at the
same time and you're radiating to all
beings without any limits without any
boundaries
this is as far as loving-kindness
meditation will take you that's as high
as you can get what happens after that
I'll redo you should anyone say that
this is the utmost pleasure enjoy that
beans experience I would not concede
that to him why is that because there's
another kind of pleasure lofty urine
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here Anandi
Bai completely surmounting oops excuse
me and with 12 fair by completely
surmounting perceptions of gross form
with the disappearance of perceptions of
gross sensory impact aware that space is
infinite a monk enters upon and abides
in the base of infinite space this is
that other kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than a previous pleasure
excuse me when you start feeling the
expansion it starts going out and out
and out in all directions at the
same time but there's no center point it
was just the feeling of expansion the
feeling of loving kindness changes to
compassion
as you keep going deeper and deeper in
your practice you will have another
hindrance arise and then you get to work
with that guy and on the other side of
that if anyone should say that this that
is the most pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pledge and what is
that other kind of pleasure here on onda
by completely surmounting the base of
infinite space where that consciousness
is infinite a monk enters upon it abides
in the base of infinite consciousness
this is that other kind of pleasure
loftier and more sublime than the
previous pleasure after you let go of
this next hindrance then you start
seeing individual consciousnesses arise
and pass away to give you an idea of how
clear and observant your mind is that
was a million consciousnesses arising
and passing away you will be able to see
the individual consciousnesses Orizon
passed away this great clarity month
it's real interesting
when you get into this state you start
seeing that everything is absolutely in
the state of change and you see it
changing at every sense door you see it
changing and there ain't no controller
can't make it stop continually changing
and it gets tiresome seeing all of these
different consciousnesses arise and pass
away it's the form of unsatisfactoriness
that arises because you know that
they're still more to do but this it
starts to be with everything and what I
tell people to do at this point is to
start looking at the spaces in between
the consciousnesses it's like an
8-millimeter movie that's going a little
bit too slow and you see a blink and
then you see a black spot and then you
see a blink and you see a spot and you
see a blink and you see a spot so you
start paying attention to what happens
in between the consciousnesses as they
arrived
should anyone say that is the utmost
pleasure and joy that beings experience
I would not concede that to him why is
that because there's another kind of
pleasure of off dear in sublette more
sublime than that pleasure what is that
other kind of pleasure here Anandi Bai
completely surmounting the base of
infinite consciousness aware that there
is no thing a monk enters upon ant
abides in the base of nothingness this
is that other kind of pleasure loftier
and more sublime than the previous
pleasure now this is when mind stops
looking outside of itself and just
starts looking at let me back up one
second from infinite consciousness are
from infinite space to infinite
consciousness the feeling of infinite
consciousness is different than the
feeling of infinite space and it's a
kind of joy that you experience when you
get into the realm of nothingness you
start feeling a different kind of
feeling again and this is very very
strong equanimity now when you got into
the 4th jhana that was good equanimity
but when you get into the realm of
nothingness the equanimity is much finer
and better I don't know how to describe
it much
of that it's like the 4th jhana yeah the
equanimity is there and yeah is real
nice but his course but when you get
into the realm of nothingness it turns
into a finer kind of equanimity more
balanced kind of equanimity if you could
say that this is where you get to
understand how to keep your attention on
your object of meditation with the right
kind of energy the amount of energy that
you use for staying on your object of
meditation changes it's not always going
to be the same and you have to do little
adjustments as you do these little
adjustments who start seeing more and
more subtle kinds of things which I'm
not going to talk about too much sugar
you have to tell me I'm not going to
tell you now this is seeing and
experiencing the brahma vihara and this
is very much backed up in the circus
the commentaries will tell you that you
can only get to the third jhana with
loving kindness and you can only get to
the third jhana with compassion and you
can only get to the third rato with joy
and you can only get to the 4th jhana
with equanimity but I'm showing you
right now and I can show you in the suit
that's where it says this meta takes you
to the 4th jhana compassion takes you to
infinite space joy take through the
infinite consciousness equanimity takes
you to nothing
is nothing is essentially their black
space between the consciousness then
then expanded forms of this video and of
all of the states and even the higher
ones I've always thought that the realm
of nothingness was most interesting
because you always have to tweak that
the energy is a little bit really good
little bit to stay in balance if you
don't then you get restless now you got
to work with that or you get dull now
you got to work with that missing and
getting caught by dullness or
restlessness is not a bad thing you get
to use your sick saris a little bit one
so that you can put your mind back and
down so every distraction that occurs in
your entire meditation it occurs to help
you who deeper in your meditation
interesting thought ism
uh
should anyone say that this is the
utmost pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure of off dear and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here at nan
de by completely surmounting the base of
nothingness monk enters upon an abides
in the base of neither perception or non
perception this is that other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure what happens here
is where before you were feeling
expansion now you're feeling like mind
is getting smaller and smaller and
smaller and smaller until you can't
really tell whether it's there or not
and while you are in that state you
don't know that you're in that state
that's how subtle it is some students
have come back to me and tell me you
know I didn't feel like I was sleeping
but I must have been asleep because I
don't remember anything anything that
happened in there when you come out of
that state is when you start reflecting
what happened in that state when your
mindfulness get sharp enough you'll
start seeing all sorts of interesting
things after you get out of that state
that's when your mind gets that real
real clear bright alertness and this is
when you start seeing when before you
were seeing individual consciousnesses
now you're starting to see one twelfth
of those
you start to see the links of dependent
origination happen in the consciousness
happen I guess that's not a good way to
put that let's say to happen in that
final that would be more precise I think
should anyone say that this is this is
where Ananda was talking to the Buddha
and he was Buddha was explaining the 7th
John on and then he started talking
about the 8th drawn on what the
experience is like and Ananda said well
it sounds like if you have to have an
attachment then the attachment to the
eighth Drona is the one to help and you
know what the Buddha said he said you're
right you gotta have an attachment
that's the highest and best attachment
you can have should anyone say that this
is the utmost pleasure that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here Anandi
Bai completely surmounting the base of
neither perception or non perception a
monk enters upon and abides in the
cessation of perception and feeling this
is that other kind of pleasure loftier
and more sublime than that previous
pleasure this is where all perception
and all feeling seats there is no more
at that time when you come back and have
perception and feeling arise again it's
like you've cleaned the chalkboard and
now you get to see how dependent
origination actually does arise and then
you get to see exactly how depend
origination ceases and when you let go
of ignorance it's such an oh wow in your
understanding that Nibhana occurs the
only way you can experience nirvana is
through the understanding of dependent
origination this is not my words I'm
speaking this is the words of the Buddha
I can show you where it says that in the
suit is so it is possible Ananda that
Wanderers of other sex might say thus
the wreath was Gautama speaks of the
cessation of perception and feeling and
he describes that as pleasure what is
this and how is this wanderers of other
sects who speak thus should be told
friend the blessed one describes
pleasure not only with reference to
pleasant feeling rather friends the two
toga the describes pleasure as pleasure
in any kind of pleasure wherever and in
whatever way is found now I had the
opportunity to spend some time with
deepa month and I asked her she was able
to sit for seven days without moving and
we found out that she was sitting in the
cessation of perception and feeling so I
said why do you do that and she gave a
one-word answer really
think about that you don't have any
sense doors pulling your attention away
you don't have any thoughts pulling your
attention away there's no perceptions of
anything there's no feeling that arises
what relief that must be at least it
sounds that way to me Mike extremely
clear me oh yeah and the purity of your
doing that it is so strong that it's
unbelievable because your mind has not
done any karmic action at all your body
has done no Carnac action at all and
that's one of the advantages and real
nice things about being around in RI
they go in and they said for seven days
to come out you give them something Wow
the merit you get for doing that is a
huge especially when you in your mind
not give it as an individual gift but
give it to the entire Sangha with the
buddha head at his head there's stories
about the the poor some poor men he only
owned one shirt and he was working in
the field and he saw sorry puta and he
didn't have anything to give him so it
went in into his Hut and he gave him a
glass of water and then he went out and
he started working in his field again
and he noticed that the the ground had
changed
kind of a kind of the color kind of
change it wasn't Brown anymore it was
gold and he picked up pieces of it and
it was gold so he decided that he wanted
some help from the king to take care of
all of this gold that was in this field
that he was working in and the Kings
helpers came and they started picking it
up saying that this was the Kings gold
and it turned back in the dirt and then
when they said that this was this gold
was this poor farmers let turn back to
Gulf I love those stories I don't know
whether they're true or not it's hard to
tell whether it's really you but I love
so needless to say it wasn't a poor man
anymore anyway
that is what the Blessed One said the
venerable ananda was satisfied and
delighted in the Blessed ones words so
the many kinds of feeling turns into a
real interesting suta because he
describes any kind of feeling every kind
of feeling that would be pleasurable or
not and he graduated those right on up
to the experience of the cessation of
perception and feeling he didn't talk
about Nibhana as being a lofty ER and
more sublime kind of happiness it didn't
mention it like that an unconditioned
steak I mean try to think what what is
an unconditioned state a state that has
no conditions in it at all is that
happiness there's got to be some kind of
relief to it I would think and in that
way there'd be happiness but geez
I've gotten into a lot of discussion was
a lot of monks about the nature of
Nevada and I always walk away with this
? going was that time well spent I don't
understand it because we can't talk
about it because how can you understand
that kind of a steak but I think and
this is my true honest feeling that it's
worth it to work for and to a team and
the easiest way to do that is by
practicing the six RS with everything
that arises anything that distracts your
mind away from what your object of
meditation is at the time now I know
that some people like to contemplate
things and think about things in the
past and that sort of thing but you're
not actually meditating at that time
when you're doing that there are some
kind of reflections and recollections
that you can use that will help your
mind point in the direction of freedom
in Nevada there's a discourse about an
arruda and I can't remember all the
different points that he SAT reflecting
on how a monk needs to have these
different mental states in order to
attain nirvana and that is considered
wholesome thinking
doesn't have any identification in it
it's impersonal thinking another example
is when I sat down and I started
thinking about the five aggregates and
the four foundations and now similar
they are and started putting it together
in my mind that they are actually one in
the same thing and then try to think of
different scenarios to see whether it
was really true all of the time or not
that is considered wholesome thinking
and you can do that as long as you don't
have repeat thoughts you can think about
dama you can think about different ways
of using the six ours but if you get
into repeat thoughts there I am
so does anybody have any questions he's
happy the night the Buddha became
enlightened yeah because the first watch
of the night he saw like tens of
thousands of his past lives and add was
the second one okay then the first watch
was when he got into the fourth 4th
jhana the second watch was when he saw
his past by the time the third book
watch was when he saw the fading away in
a rising of beams and dependent
origination and all that other stuff
okay so was that precession necessary in
order to have that final outcome that's
the way he did it and there was an awful
lot of bunks during the time of the
Buddha that practiced the way that he
practiced in remembering past lifetime
seeing me arising and passing away in
and seeing Nibhana there's actually
three ways that the Buddha taught to
attain nirvana one way is the way I'm
teaching right now which is going
through all of the John's and experience
a cessation of perception and feeling
and experiencing about the other way is
going through these psychic abilities
people that are very sensitive to
feeling there they'll be sitting and all
of a sudden they'll be able to see with
the divine divine I they'll be able to
see distance distant things with the
divine year they'll be able to hear
Celeste you'll talk as well as distant
talk from other people
in the suit is and I'm not a hundred
percent that this is actually as
accurate as it could be it talks about
all different kinds of things like being
able to read other people's minds and
flying in through the air and walking on
the water and walking through solid
objects and things like that then you
get to a certain place where you see the
cessation of perception and feeling
dependent origination in the bottom and
the third way is the way the Buddha did
it is called the TV Joe and that is
getting to the 4th jhana seeing past
lifetime seeing the arising and passing
away of beings in other realms and the
cessation of perception and feeling and
seeing the event under Richard
navona it seems to me that the fastest
way for you to experience Nibhana is by
going through the forger on us then
remembering past lifetimes then seeing
the arising and passing away of beings
and then attaining the bottom but an
awful lot of the people that I show past
lifetimes to how to remember past
lifetime they only do it for a little
while and then they want to get back to
doing another practice instead of taking
that as their practice so that I don't
have any students that stay with it to
the end for whatever reason this
progression to contemplating
yes so would be you don't seem to
mention it as an important step in and
practice we're doing because I prefer to
teach going through all of the John's I
like teaching the brahma vihara what
more can I say other than Ebola is there
an advantage to remember in past lives
when you start looking at past lives you
start having unshakable belief that
karma is real I mean there's no question
in your mind that all karma is real and
that's the advantage of doing that there
is a great deal of understanding that
occurs when you start looking at past
lifetimes and I tell people that this is
the fast track and it doesn't seem to
interest so much but I do like teaching
the Jones
you
you
ok this is a suit on request so that's
it I heard on one occasion the blessed
one was Vivian sawatya in Jettas girl
benetton pendejas park then the
carpenter pancha conga went to the
venerable who died and after paying
homage to him sat down at one side and
ask him venerable sir how many kinds of
feeling have been stated by the blessed
one three kinds of feeling have been
stated by the Blessed One householder
pleasant feeling painful feeling and
neither painful nor pleasant feeling
these three kinds of feeling have been
stated by the blessed one not three
kinds of feeling have been stated by the
Blessed One venerable who died and two
kinds of feeling have been stated by the
blessed one pleasant feeling and painful
feeling this neither painful nor
pleasant feeling has been stated by the
Blessed One as a peaceful and sublime
kind of pleasure a second time in a
third time the venerable who Diane
stated his position the second and third
time the carpenter poncho conga stated
his this carpenter was he was basically
living in the monastery and he was the
fix-it man in Maine builder venerable or
jetta the of Jettas Grove when he got
all of this money from an attempt indica
he started building a lot
different structures on on the on the
land that's what he did with the money
and he had hired panja conga as his
carpenter builder of handyman so he was
always hanging around whenever the
Buddha gave the discourse he would go
listen to it it's one of the advantages
of being in a monastery you get to hear
lots and lots of different discourses so
that's why he was feeling fairly good
about refuting what venerable who died
in it said the venerable Ananda heard
their conversation then he went to the
Blessed One after paying homage to him
he sat down at one side and reported to
the Blessed One the entire conversation
between the venerable who Diane and the
carpenter panja conga when it was
finished the Blessed One told the
venerable Ananda Ananda it was actually
a true presentation that the carpenter
panja conga would not accept from who
diet and it was actually a true
presentation that who Diane would not
accept from the carpenter panja conga I
have stated two kinds of feeling in one
presentation I've stated three kinds of
feeling in another presentation I've
stated five kinds of feeling in another
presentation five kinds of feeling in
Pali its Duke asuka-dono gnosis oh
manasa Pekka in English it's painful
physical feeling Pleasant physical
feeling painful mental feeling Pleasant
mental feeling and equanimity
so that's the five dollar feelings that
he did in one presentation I have stated
six kinds of feeling and another
presentation what are the six kinds of
feeling read it to yester yeah I've
stated 18 kinds of feeling in another
presentation what are 18 kinds of
feeling well the six cents stores with
lesson unpleasant and neither Pleasant
or unpleasant catchy sharp well done
I've stated 36 kinds of feeling in
another presentation jeez 36 yeah yes
that's that's a difficult one that they
have to go to another suit to get to 30
okay you're gonna make me do it aren't
you where is it 40 minutes it's 2 times
18 years Five Guys times six doors
that's 30 okay oh it's five feelings
that those six cent stores that's 30 Oh
Thursday I wasn't there stuff on this
one because he's asking for 36 there's
no so there's six that we're not killing
and I success oh don't mind you know
there's six doors and mines one of them
so it's time
is 30 I don't remember the number of the
suit up getting old fra fra did I read
did I write it up the page no you lose
that just check the other patients
well we're somewhere in the higher
numbers I chances with this football
says the 36 kinds are the 36 positions
of beings the six kinds of joy greed
equanimity your answer each based and
it's on the mud and then 137 137 a
little quick releases positions of teens
lines night 15 0 seconds 90 13 yeah
there are six kinds of joy based on the
household life and six kinds of joy
based on renunciation there are six
kinds of grief based on the household
life and six kinds of grief based on
renunciation there are six kinds of
equanimity based on the household life
and six kinds of equanimity based on
renunciation 36 am I going to go into
all of this okay you want the page
number he said MN 3017 set 191 and 30 so
oh what's MN 1 37 minutes second nine to
15 section money okay and I have stated
a hundred and eight kinda feel and
another reason and this is avi dama and
I don't touch on thank you so we'll let
that one slide
okay according to the footnote it says
the hundred and eight kinds of feeling
are the previous 36 kinds of feeling as
referred to present past present and
future that is how the Dhamma has been
shown by me in different presentations
when the Dhamma has thus been shown by
me in different presentations it may be
expected of those who will not concede
allow and accept what is well stated and
well spoken by others that they will be
they will take two quarreling brawling
disputing and the infamous stabbing each
other with verbal daggers but it may be
expected of those who can see allow and
accept what is well stated and well
spoken by others that they will live in
Concord and mutual appreciation without
is Benton disputing with the infamous
blending like milk and water viewing
each other with kindly eyes another
there are five cords of sensual pleasure
what are the five forms cognizable by
the eye that are wished for desired
agreeable and likeable connected with
sensual desire and provocative of lust
sounds cognizable by the ear odors
cognizable by the nose flavors
cognizable by the tongue tangibles
cognizable by the body that are wished
for desired agreeable and Michael
connected with
sexual desire and provocative of lust
these are the five chords of sensual
pleasure now the pleasure enjoyed that
arise dependent on these five chords of
sensual pleasure are called sensual
pleasure thanks good sense them yet why
isn't mind objects there because these
are the physical sense doors should
anyone say that is the utmost pleasure
and joy that beings experience I would
not concede that to him why is that
because there's another kind of pleasure
lofty ER and more sublime than that
pleasure and what is that other kind of
pleasure here Ananda quite secluded from
sensual pleasures secluded from
unwholesome states a monk enters upon
and abides in the first jhana which is
accompanied by thinking and examining
thought with joy and happiness born of
seclusion that is the other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure so what we're
talking about here is yes there is
pleasure with the sense doors but it's
really low in course especially when you
start getting into mental development
should anyone say that this is the
utmost joy that beings experience I
would not concede that to him why is
that because there's another kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
that pleasure and what is that other
kind of pleasure here Ananda with the
stilling of thinking and examining
thought a monk enters upon and abides in
the second Drona which has
self-confidence and stillness of mind
and without thinking and examining
thought with joy and happiness born of
collectiveness this is the other kind of
pleasure loftier and more supply than
the previous pleasure now you most of
you have experienced going into the
second truck and when you get into the
second jhana if you keep trying to
verbalize the wish you start having
pretty intense headache and that means
that you're trying too hard you have to
let go of the wish and then just feel
the wish you can use a one word helper
peace calm happiness clear tranquil
joy cheerful whatever word you want to
use as long as it brings up that feeling
and then you take that feeling and put
it in your heart and you take your
spiritual friend and put your spiritual
friend right in the middle of that
feeling and surround your friend with
that feeling of peace calm happiness
whatever it happens to be that your wish
is and you give them a heart hug very
gentle and you stay with that feeling
and relax any tension or tightness stay
with that feeling until it starts to
fade away when it fades away and your
mind begins to wander to something else
then you use the six RS and recognize
that your mind is going away release
that that means don't keep your
attention on the distraction relax the
tightness caused by minds attention
moving from one thing to another then
excuse me smile
that's that simple just smile and then
come back to your object meditation why
do you smile because it's easier to have
a light alert agile mind when your mind
is uplifted smiling is a very necessary
part of this practice and the more you
can smile into whatever you're doing
during your daily activities you are
practicing a part of the Eightfold Path
I call it harmonious practice most
people call it right effort letting go
of an unwholesome state brings vaccine
smiling coming back to your object to
meditation stay with the smile and your
object of meditation as long as you can
now your daily activities when you get
out of retreat your object of meditation
with your daily activities can be just
smiling but occasionally wish everybody
happiness and it's not just a smile with
the lips it's a smile with a lips a
smile with the mind a smile with your
eyes and a smile in your heart the more
you practice smiling the more balance
you have
your mind and with that balance there's
more clarity and you start developing
joy you start developing that uplifted
mind so that you have it uplifted all of
the time then your mindfulness improves
immeasurably you're able to see when
your mind starts to heavy out and you
can make the conscious decision right
there to come back to the right effort
or not if you want to suffer looks like
I know a few people that really like to
suffer they don't want to give it up but
the more you can soften your mind and
the more you can have joy arise the
easier everything becomes in your life
you know there's a lot of prosperity
books out there how to manifest you want
to know how to manifest be happy it's
that simple when I went to Australia I
happen to go on the shortest day of the
year in Australia and I left from
Malaysia now the shortest day of the
year in Australia is rather cool it's
not cold but it's it's cool and I was
completely unprepared for it and I was
walking around with sandals with no
socks and I had the thought you know it
would really be nice if I had some warm
feet but I don't so I just kind of truck
'old into it and did what I was going to
do and I wound up going to the Burmese
monastery just outside of Sydney and the
first thing that monk did when I walked
in was gave me a pair of socks I was
completely happy you know that that's
the highest ambition in my life is to
have one here what format and about a
week later all of a sudden
I had a dozen pair of zombies and I
started walking around going no I don't
need any more cider my finger warm
enough that's enough and to this day I
have socks coming up here it's truly
amazing I had three pair of socks to
start this trip that's all I have that's
all I need I don't want any more I now
have 25 do you want to manifest be happy
but I guess you have to be grumpy to
turn it off the more you put happiness
into what you're doing while you're
doing it the more content your money
comes the more you want to start sharing
your happiness with other people so you
practice smiling all the time that is
following the full path that will help
your practice in city how many times
does your mind get serious I know some
people that it's pretty regular
but when you have a serious mind what is
that same I have an attachment I want to
control things and have things bb-8 I
want them to be when I want them that
way no questions asked when you're able
to smile more into what you're doing you
become aware of not only how you cause
your own pain when things don't happen
the way you want them to but the pain
that you caused other people because
you're trying to push and force things
to be the way you want them so you get a
bonus you're not only cause pain to
yourself you get to cause pain to
somebody else but that does not lead to
an uplifted mind that does not lead to
an alert mind that leads to a mind that
is heavy and you start taking all of
your thoughts and all of your feelings
so personally and that's the cause of
frustration and frustration leads to
depression and depression leads to
extreme sadness and what's the fun in
that
so the more we can practice having that
uplift in mind all of the time the
easier it is to see when your mind
heavies out and when you mind heavies
out there's a couple things that happens
one is you become less efficient that
what you're doing while you're doing it
and there's real disappointment that
happens because you can't manifest it
exactly the way you want to manifest and
that leads to being pulled out of the
present moment and before long you're a
thousand miles away not paying attention
to what you're doing while you're doing
it which can be real dangerous if you're
cutting vegetables or using a knife for
some reason or what happens when
somebody says something to you and you
get angry and you walk out and you start
thinking about that no-good so-and-so
and you get in the car and you start
driving are you driving or are you
thinking how do you think accidents
occur
the more you get involved in your
dissatisfaction of the present moment
the less you're in the present moment
and the more pain you caused yourself
and other people around you so whats the
remedy practice smiling somebody sent me
a video about this doctor he was healing
people left and right in India and one
of the guys that used to be with body
Monty Python I can't remember his name
John even God please yeah he went to
India to check out this doctor and he
made a little movie of it and this
doctor would have 30 or 40 people
standing around in the circle making
faces at each other and laughing and
just he showed them all different ways
of laughing and all of a sudden their
body got in balance and their mind was
in balance and the diseases started
going away there's all kinds of
wonderful things that happen in your
body when you left and what's the first
part of laughing smiley
when you start doing this you start to
gain a lot of self-confidence you start
saying hey this stuff works and that
self-confidence is not only occurring
while you're sitting in your meditation
it is occurring throughout the day you
feel like you're really starting to
understand how your mind works and
that's when the oh wow is starting to
happen Wow look at that that is how it
works when I laugh I go from I am that
too it's only that so guess what I'm
pushing guess what I want you to do when
you go home I want you to sit in
meditation but you better be smiling
I'll get my psychic stick out Nicki
giggle
I don't really have a say you just did
goddess ok so should anyone say that
there is another pleasure loftier and
more sublime words of that they put the
dot dot def not in the wrong spots there
as far as I can see should anyone say
the utmost pleasure enjoy that this is
the utmost pleasure enjoy that being
beings experience I would not concede
that to him why is that because there's
another kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than that pleasure and what
is that other kind of pleasure here
Amanda with the fading away as well of
joy a mock abides in equanimity mindful
and fully aware still feeling pleasure
with the body he enters upon and abides
in the third drama on account of which
noble ones announce he has a pleasant
abiding who has equanimity and his
mindful this is that other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure so the joy doesn't
arise anymore as your mind starts to
calm down but you still feel very strong
comfort in your mind and in your body
and you begin to feel a very nice
sense of mental balance the equanimity
that we're talking about here is you can
be sitting in the meditation and a
motorcycle can come right outside the
door without a muffler on and your mind
won't necessarily shake and start
getting caught up in the I don't like
sand I want it to be different than it
is the equanimity helps your mind have a
sense of balance so you hear that sound
but it doesn't make your mind react now
this is an interesting thing that is the
full awareness the full awareness is a
major thing to know about so that you
can tell the difference between
absorption concentration and tranquil
wisdom constant collectiveness when you
get to the third jhana with absorption
concentration you do not feel your body
at all your mind stays glued on your
object of meditation whatever that
happens to be I can come along with a
gun right beside your ear and fire it
and you wouldn't hear it I can take a
stick and I can beat you over the head
and you wouldn't feel it is that full
awareness is that awareness of anything
than the object of meditation no full
awareness means that if I come up and I
touch you when you're practicing the
summit of the parsonage on us you would
feel that doesn't make your mind shake
that you would feel it you would feel
ants walking across your head and that
reminds me of something that happened
when I was in Burma there I was
practicing the street vipassana and one
of the teachers mentioned that sometimes
it feels like ants are walking all over
your body so I'm sitting in meditation
and all of a sudden I'm feeling ants all
over and I'm going oh oh this is not so
good but the teachers said just just
noted number about 10 minutes some of
the answers starting to bite so I
started thinking mister this can't be
right and I looked down at my hands and
there must have been 500 m and they were
crawling up my arms and God just and
decided that I didn't like that
meditation it's that moment if I
couldn't tell the difference between
real lance and meditation ants
but I found out from that experience
that the the Chinese make this truck it
has a propellant in it and you draw a
circle around you and the ants won't
won't cross that line which is great
except what they do is they go over the
wall and they go up the wall and then go
over the ceiling and they are very good
at dive Bobby you can't get away from
the ants and Asian they don't that's why
we couldn't find it what tell it anymore
they're doing the Asian thing is toxic
it's time signal was an Asian no of
course it is what keeps him away where's
the play dynasty no you don't put it on
windows right you put a circle around
you and I don't care i'd rather have
that circle of toxic around me than the
ants crawling on me as you start going
deeper in your meditation you start
losing tension in your bot in your mind
as you lose tension in your mind you
start losing tension in your body when
you lose tension in your body you stop
feeling different parts of your body
burn my hands go I don't have any leg
feels like my head is just sitting on
the floor so one of the students told me
one time
but if something do you feel a breeze
you will feel that when there is contact
so it's not that you lose the sensations
in your body as an awful lot of people
that practice one pointed concentration
try to convince you that that's the
right way to do the meditation you still
have full awareness and you remember
that chart that I showed you a little
while back about the four foundations of
mindfulness and the five aggregates
being the same and then right underneath
it there's the hindrances when your
mindfulness waivers or becomes week
ahead rents will arise when a hindrance
arises you are no longer in the jhana
now you have to work with that enron's
letting it go back thing ah smiling
returning to your object to meditation
and keeping it going
the hindrances help you very much they
are not the enemy to fight with and this
is another major difference between
people that practice different forms of
one-pointed concentration or absorption
concentration and the summative a
positive person who's practicing a
collective mind when a hindrance arises
for someone practicing one-pointed
concentration they generally try to
fight the hindrance they don't like the
hindrances they want them to stop they
try to push them away and this makes
mine tighter and tighter and tighter but
person practicing one-pointed
concentration because they're not used
to seeing that they won't even recognize
that their mind is tight yeah headaches
don't mean if I try hard thing
eventually yes you do but I'm talking
about it first right now before getting
to the absorption and before getting to
what they call access concentration
access concentration is kind of a medium
kind of concentration but the force of
the concentration is strong enough to
suppress the hindrances and if you try
to bring the hindrance up into your mind
your mind will say nope and just drop it
that's one of the ways you test to see
whether you're an access concentration
or not it seems like it's a good thing
and now I don't have any
this is now I have this pure mind that I
can continue watching but there's still
the tension and tightness that is not
seen when you're practicing the summit
of a Posada meditation you don't have a
stage right before the jhana you have a
hindrance right before the Johnny and
you have to learn how to handle that
relax into it allow it to be keep coming
back to your object to meditation until
that hindrance disappears when it
disappears there's a sense of relief
there's joy there's happiness there's
collectiveness of mind unification of
life going from one drama to the next
the hindrance when your mindfulness
waivers a little bit the hindrance comes
up and now you have to work with this
one and you get into the second drum and
then your mindfulness waivers a little
bit now you have another Henry and when
you let that go you get into the next
drama and the next drum in the next jump
and it happens all the way through the
hindrances show you where your
attachments are show you how you
identify with that thought feeling
concept opinion ideas story and
causes payments that relax step that one
little extra step foot into the
absorption concentration will change
that absorption concentration into
summit ave pizana collectiveness you
will not go as deep in the concentration
but you will get as still you will feel
very strong peace and calm and very
tranquil but like the Buddha before the
dawn came enlightened he practiced one
pointed concentration because that's the
only kind of meditation that was around
and he went as far as he could go with
the two different teachers that were
teaching and he was not satisfied with
those practices he saw that there was
still things that were coming up so he
went off for six years looking for how
to attain me but the the Bodhisattva was
truly an amazing being because he was so
very intelligent when he was taught the
meditation he'd learned it very quickly
and he went through all the stages of
the meditation he went through all of
the jhanas very quickly week 10 days
but it wasn't satisfied because he saw
that there's still something there even
though he became one of the most
advanced meditators in the world at that
time he wasn't satisfied with what was
he was practicing now during that time
there were a lot of people that said
well you gotta fast and only eat this
kind of food and then you'll become
enlightened and he did those kind of
things he lost huge amounts of weight he
cut down the amount of food till he was
taking so little that his body became so
we could hardly stand and with each one
of those different things he realized I
went as far as anybody can go with this
practice and nobody can go further than
this and I'm not satisfied with it so
I'm going to stop and he did it with all
these different kinds of food and there
was a practice during the time of the
Buddha about holding your breath
actually Sai Baba teaches a form of
meditation life that's holding your
breath and he went as far as anybody
could go with holding his breath and he
saw that that didn't work so he let that
practice go one of the things they do in
India when you do the holding breath
meditation you know that little
partition underneath your tongue they
cut it so they can swallow their tongue
and that way they won't have any air
coming up in their ears or in there and
in their mouth or nose so they learn
swallow their tongue make sure one go to
Indian try it in so you can see that all
of these different kinds of practices
that the bodhi said to did they were all
very they were very much practiced as
ways to become enlightened this is one
of the tricky things about the word
enlightened because I tell you something
you don't know I've enlightened dude
right but the Buddha became awake he
didn't walk around and bring world
anymore he became so awake as to how the
process works that has mine let go of
all of the fetters he could see the
matrix he could see the matrix and then
he could stop bullets just by think why
don't you try
haha stock while Elton's well you know
the one of the advantages of practicing
loving-kindness meditation it says in
the books that I'm tricking to try is
that poisons will not harm you fire will
not harm you and weapons will not harm
you I'm not going to try those things to
see whether they really work or not
there is the the when I was in Burma and
there was a monk in one of the villages
he became very famous it was sitting in
in his Hut doing meditation he was
practicing absorption concentration and
he was practicing meta at the time and
his hot caught on fire and it burned to
the ground and all of the other monks
around they were so worried about this
monk and the monk when they started
clearing stuff away he was sitting there
in his meditation didn't he didn't even
burn his clothes does that happen with
sama Toby Posada I don't know what I
don't want to find out but that happened
for him and I don't want to take any
poisons to see whether it really works
or not you certainly don't want anybody
pointing a gun at me so some of the
things we have to take on faith at least
I do i'm not going to test them anyway
should anyone say that this is the
utmost pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there is another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure
here Ananda with the abandoning of
pleasure in pain with the abandoning of
pleasure in pain what we need to do is
add gross pleasure and gross pain when
you're in the 4th jhana you will still
feel some sensations but they don't make
your mind feet and with the previous
disappearance of joy joy and grief a
monk enters upon and abides in the
fourth drama which has neither pain nor
pleasure because of the equanimity if
you don't import these things and purity
of mindfulness due to equanimity this is
that other kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than previous pleasure when
when you get into the 4th jhana you are
not able to radiate loving kindness from
your heart anymore you start radiating
loving kindness from your head that's
one way to tell whether you're in that
drought up or not you feel very strong
balance of mind you feel very very
little of your body if you put your
attention on different places in your
body you'll be able to feel it but when
you keep your mind on your object of
meditation and keep radiating
loving kindness you won't feel your body
at that time now people practicing
mindfulness of breathing and they get to
the 4th jhana if they're practicing
absorption concentration they will tell
you that you're no longer able to
breathe through your lungs anymore that
the breath comes through the air comes
through your ears that does not happen
with the summative episode on meditation
you are still able to see the breath in
two places you've always seen it before
it becomes a little bit more subtle but
you're still available to see the breath
when you get into the 4th jhana I
generally will tell people that that's
what I want them to start relating
loving kindness to different spiritual
friends and then family members and then
neutral persons and then enemies after
they do all of that then I will tell
them to start radiating loving kindness
in the six different directions in front
behind to the right to the left above
below and then all the directions at the
same time and you're radiating to all
beings without any limits without any
boundaries
this is as far as loving-kindness
meditation will take you that's as high
as you can get what happens after that
I'll redo you should anyone say that
this is the utmost pleasure enjoy that
beans experience I would not concede
that to him why is that because there's
another kind of pleasure lofty urine
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here Anandi
Bai completely surmounting oops excuse
me and with 12 fair by completely
surmounting perceptions of gross form
with the disappearance of perceptions of
gross sensory impact aware that space is
infinite a monk enters upon and abides
in the base of infinite space this is
that other kind of pleasure loftier and
more sublime than a previous pleasure
excuse me when you start feeling the
expansion it starts going out and out
and out in all directions at the
same time but there's no center point it
was just the feeling of expansion the
feeling of loving kindness changes to
compassion
as you keep going deeper and deeper in
your practice you will have another
hindrance arise and then you get to work
with that guy and on the other side of
that if anyone should say that this that
is the most pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pledge and what is
that other kind of pleasure here on onda
by completely surmounting the base of
infinite space where that consciousness
is infinite a monk enters upon it abides
in the base of infinite consciousness
this is that other kind of pleasure
loftier and more sublime than the
previous pleasure after you let go of
this next hindrance then you start
seeing individual consciousnesses arise
and pass away to give you an idea of how
clear and observant your mind is that
was a million consciousnesses arising
and passing away you will be able to see
the individual consciousnesses Orizon
passed away this great clarity month
it's real interesting
when you get into this state you start
seeing that everything is absolutely in
the state of change and you see it
changing at every sense door you see it
changing and there ain't no controller
can't make it stop continually changing
and it gets tiresome seeing all of these
different consciousnesses arise and pass
away it's the form of unsatisfactoriness
that arises because you know that
they're still more to do but this it
starts to be with everything and what I
tell people to do at this point is to
start looking at the spaces in between
the consciousnesses it's like an
8-millimeter movie that's going a little
bit too slow and you see a blink and
then you see a black spot and then you
see a blink and you see a spot and you
see a blink and you see a spot so you
start paying attention to what happens
in between the consciousnesses as they
arrived
should anyone say that is the utmost
pleasure and joy that beings experience
I would not concede that to him why is
that because there's another kind of
pleasure of off dear in sublette more
sublime than that pleasure what is that
other kind of pleasure here Anandi Bai
completely surmounting the base of
infinite consciousness aware that there
is no thing a monk enters upon ant
abides in the base of nothingness this
is that other kind of pleasure loftier
and more sublime than the previous
pleasure now this is when mind stops
looking outside of itself and just
starts looking at let me back up one
second from infinite consciousness are
from infinite space to infinite
consciousness the feeling of infinite
consciousness is different than the
feeling of infinite space and it's a
kind of joy that you experience when you
get into the realm of nothingness you
start feeling a different kind of
feeling again and this is very very
strong equanimity now when you got into
the 4th jhana that was good equanimity
but when you get into the realm of
nothingness the equanimity is much finer
and better I don't know how to describe
it much
of that it's like the 4th jhana yeah the
equanimity is there and yeah is real
nice but his course but when you get
into the realm of nothingness it turns
into a finer kind of equanimity more
balanced kind of equanimity if you could
say that this is where you get to
understand how to keep your attention on
your object of meditation with the right
kind of energy the amount of energy that
you use for staying on your object of
meditation changes it's not always going
to be the same and you have to do little
adjustments as you do these little
adjustments who start seeing more and
more subtle kinds of things which I'm
not going to talk about too much sugar
you have to tell me I'm not going to
tell you now this is seeing and
experiencing the brahma vihara and this
is very much backed up in the circus
the commentaries will tell you that you
can only get to the third jhana with
loving kindness and you can only get to
the third jhana with compassion and you
can only get to the third rato with joy
and you can only get to the 4th jhana
with equanimity but I'm showing you
right now and I can show you in the suit
that's where it says this meta takes you
to the 4th jhana compassion takes you to
infinite space joy take through the
infinite consciousness equanimity takes
you to nothing
is nothing is essentially their black
space between the consciousness then
then expanded forms of this video and of
all of the states and even the higher
ones I've always thought that the realm
of nothingness was most interesting
because you always have to tweak that
the energy is a little bit really good
little bit to stay in balance if you
don't then you get restless now you got
to work with that or you get dull now
you got to work with that missing and
getting caught by dullness or
restlessness is not a bad thing you get
to use your sick saris a little bit one
so that you can put your mind back and
down so every distraction that occurs in
your entire meditation it occurs to help
you who deeper in your meditation
interesting thought ism
uh
should anyone say that this is the
utmost pleasure enjoy that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure of off dear and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here at nan
de by completely surmounting the base of
nothingness monk enters upon an abides
in the base of neither perception or non
perception this is that other kind of
pleasure loftier and more sublime than
the previous pleasure what happens here
is where before you were feeling
expansion now you're feeling like mind
is getting smaller and smaller and
smaller and smaller until you can't
really tell whether it's there or not
and while you are in that state you
don't know that you're in that state
that's how subtle it is some students
have come back to me and tell me you
know I didn't feel like I was sleeping
but I must have been asleep because I
don't remember anything anything that
happened in there when you come out of
that state is when you start reflecting
what happened in that state when your
mindfulness get sharp enough you'll
start seeing all sorts of interesting
things after you get out of that state
that's when your mind gets that real
real clear bright alertness and this is
when you start seeing when before you
were seeing individual consciousnesses
now you're starting to see one twelfth
of those
you start to see the links of dependent
origination happen in the consciousness
happen I guess that's not a good way to
put that let's say to happen in that
final that would be more precise I think
should anyone say that this is this is
where Ananda was talking to the Buddha
and he was Buddha was explaining the 7th
John on and then he started talking
about the 8th drawn on what the
experience is like and Ananda said well
it sounds like if you have to have an
attachment then the attachment to the
eighth Drona is the one to help and you
know what the Buddha said he said you're
right you gotta have an attachment
that's the highest and best attachment
you can have should anyone say that this
is the utmost pleasure that beings
experience I would not concede that to
him why is that because there's another
kind of pleasure loftier and more
sublime than that pleasure and what is
that other kind of pleasure here Anandi
Bai completely surmounting the base of
neither perception or non perception a
monk enters upon and abides in the
cessation of perception and feeling this
is that other kind of pleasure loftier
and more sublime than that previous
pleasure this is where all perception
and all feeling seats there is no more
at that time when you come back and have
perception and feeling arise again it's
like you've cleaned the chalkboard and
now you get to see how dependent
origination actually does arise and then
you get to see exactly how depend
origination ceases and when you let go
of ignorance it's such an oh wow in your
understanding that Nibhana occurs the
only way you can experience nirvana is
through the understanding of dependent
origination this is not my words I'm
speaking this is the words of the Buddha
I can show you where it says that in the
suit is so it is possible Ananda that
Wanderers of other sex might say thus
the wreath was Gautama speaks of the
cessation of perception and feeling and
he describes that as pleasure what is
this and how is this wanderers of other
sects who speak thus should be told
friend the blessed one describes
pleasure not only with reference to
pleasant feeling rather friends the two
toga the describes pleasure as pleasure
in any kind of pleasure wherever and in
whatever way is found now I had the
opportunity to spend some time with
deepa month and I asked her she was able
to sit for seven days without moving and
we found out that she was sitting in the
cessation of perception and feeling so I
said why do you do that and she gave a
one-word answer really
think about that you don't have any
sense doors pulling your attention away
you don't have any thoughts pulling your
attention away there's no perceptions of
anything there's no feeling that arises
what relief that must be at least it
sounds that way to me Mike extremely
clear me oh yeah and the purity of your
doing that it is so strong that it's
unbelievable because your mind has not
done any karmic action at all your body
has done no Carnac action at all and
that's one of the advantages and real
nice things about being around in RI
they go in and they said for seven days
to come out you give them something Wow
the merit you get for doing that is a
huge especially when you in your mind
not give it as an individual gift but
give it to the entire Sangha with the
buddha head at his head there's stories
about the the poor some poor men he only
owned one shirt and he was working in
the field and he saw sorry puta and he
didn't have anything to give him so it
went in into his Hut and he gave him a
glass of water and then he went out and
he started working in his field again
and he noticed that the the ground had
changed
kind of a kind of the color kind of
change it wasn't Brown anymore it was
gold and he picked up pieces of it and
it was gold so he decided that he wanted
some help from the king to take care of
all of this gold that was in this field
that he was working in and the Kings
helpers came and they started picking it
up saying that this was the Kings gold
and it turned back in the dirt and then
when they said that this was this gold
was this poor farmers let turn back to
Gulf I love those stories I don't know
whether they're true or not it's hard to
tell whether it's really you but I love
so needless to say it wasn't a poor man
anymore anyway
that is what the Blessed One said the
venerable ananda was satisfied and
delighted in the Blessed ones words so
the many kinds of feeling turns into a
real interesting suta because he
describes any kind of feeling every kind
of feeling that would be pleasurable or
not and he graduated those right on up
to the experience of the cessation of
perception and feeling he didn't talk
about Nibhana as being a lofty ER and
more sublime kind of happiness it didn't
mention it like that an unconditioned
steak I mean try to think what what is
an unconditioned state a state that has
no conditions in it at all is that
happiness there's got to be some kind of
relief to it I would think and in that
way there'd be happiness but geez
I've gotten into a lot of discussion was
a lot of monks about the nature of
Nevada and I always walk away with this
? going was that time well spent I don't
understand it because we can't talk
about it because how can you understand
that kind of a steak but I think and
this is my true honest feeling that it's
worth it to work for and to a team and
the easiest way to do that is by
practicing the six RS with everything
that arises anything that distracts your
mind away from what your object of
meditation is at the time now I know
that some people like to contemplate
things and think about things in the
past and that sort of thing but you're
not actually meditating at that time
when you're doing that there are some
kind of reflections and recollections
that you can use that will help your
mind point in the direction of freedom
in Nevada there's a discourse about an
arruda and I can't remember all the
different points that he SAT reflecting
on how a monk needs to have these
different mental states in order to
attain nirvana and that is considered
wholesome thinking
doesn't have any identification in it
it's impersonal thinking another example
is when I sat down and I started
thinking about the five aggregates and
the four foundations and now similar
they are and started putting it together
in my mind that they are actually one in
the same thing and then try to think of
different scenarios to see whether it
was really true all of the time or not
that is considered wholesome thinking
and you can do that as long as you don't
have repeat thoughts you can think about
dama you can think about different ways
of using the six ours but if you get
into repeat thoughts there I am
so does anybody have any questions he's
happy the night the Buddha became
enlightened yeah because the first watch
of the night he saw like tens of
thousands of his past lives and add was
the second one okay then the first watch
was when he got into the fourth 4th
jhana the second watch was when he saw
his past by the time the third book
watch was when he saw the fading away in
a rising of beams and dependent
origination and all that other stuff
okay so was that precession necessary in
order to have that final outcome that's
the way he did it and there was an awful
lot of bunks during the time of the
Buddha that practiced the way that he
practiced in remembering past lifetime
seeing me arising and passing away in
and seeing Nibhana there's actually
three ways that the Buddha taught to
attain nirvana one way is the way I'm
teaching right now which is going
through all of the John's and experience
a cessation of perception and feeling
and experiencing about the other way is
going through these psychic abilities
people that are very sensitive to
feeling there they'll be sitting and all
of a sudden they'll be able to see with
the divine divine I they'll be able to
see distance distant things with the
divine year they'll be able to hear
Celeste you'll talk as well as distant
talk from other people
in the suit is and I'm not a hundred
percent that this is actually as
accurate as it could be it talks about
all different kinds of things like being
able to read other people's minds and
flying in through the air and walking on
the water and walking through solid
objects and things like that then you
get to a certain place where you see the
cessation of perception and feeling
dependent origination in the bottom and
the third way is the way the Buddha did
it is called the TV Joe and that is
getting to the 4th jhana seeing past
lifetime seeing the arising and passing
away of beings in other realms and the
cessation of perception and feeling and
seeing the event under Richard
navona it seems to me that the fastest
way for you to experience Nibhana is by
going through the forger on us then
remembering past lifetimes then seeing
the arising and passing away of beings
and then attaining the bottom but an
awful lot of the people that I show past
lifetimes to how to remember past
lifetime they only do it for a little
while and then they want to get back to
doing another practice instead of taking
that as their practice so that I don't
have any students that stay with it to
the end for whatever reason this
progression to contemplating
yes so would be you don't seem to
mention it as an important step in and
practice we're doing because I prefer to
teach going through all of the John's I
like teaching the brahma vihara what
more can I say other than Ebola is there
an advantage to remember in past lives
when you start looking at past lives you
start having unshakable belief that
karma is real I mean there's no question
in your mind that all karma is real and
that's the advantage of doing that there
is a great deal of understanding that
occurs when you start looking at past
lifetimes and I tell people that this is
the fast track and it doesn't seem to
interest so much but I do like teaching
the Jones