From: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eckL93HIeqk

Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.

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thus if I heard on one occasion the

blessed one was living in sawatya and

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now on that occasion a pernicious view

had arisen in the monk named saeki son

of a fisherman as I understand the

Dhamma taught by the Blessed One it is

this same consciousness that runs and

wanders through the rounds of rebirths

not another this view is a Brahmin view

and does not agree with the Buddha's

teaching because if there is a add the

same consciousness running from one

lifetime to the next that means there

would be a permanent soul or self and

that's what their belief is several

monks having heard this went to the

monks aati and asked him friend sathy is

it true that such a pernicious view as

arisen in you that's like saying is it

true that you're so stupid that you

believe this that's basically what

pernicious means exactly so friends as I

understand the Dhamma taught by the

Blessed One it is the same consciousness

that runs and wanders through the rounds

of rebirth not another then those monks

desired desiring to detach him from that

pernicious view pressed and questioned

and cross-question in this friend sathy

do not say so do not misrepresent the

blessed one it is not good to dissent

the blessed one the blessed one would

not speak thus for in many ways the

Blessed One has stated conscious

to be dependently arisen since without a

condition there is no origination of

consciousness yet although pressed and

questioned and cross-question by the

monks in this way the monks aati son of

a fisherman still obstinately adhered to

that pernicious view and continued to

insist upon it in the suit is there's

more than one saati so they always put

the son of his father was a fisherman

but sochti hated the smell of fish so

when we read about him being the son of

a fisherman that's kind of amongst joke

since the monks were unable to detach

him from that pernicious view they went

to the blessed one and after paying

homage to him they sat down at one side

and told him all that had occurred

adding venerable sir since we could not

detach the monks aati son of a fisherman

from this pernicious view we have

reported this mass of matter to the

blessed one then the blessed one

addressed a certain month us come monk

tell the monks at ease son of the

fishermen in my name that the teacher

calls him yes Ben erable sir he replied

he went to the monks aati and told him

the teacher calls you France aati yes

friend he replied and he went to the

blessed one and after paying homage to

him sat down at one side the monks

during the time of the Buddha referred

to each other as

friend okay friend sorry putas and

friend mogul Lana whatever and in

apparently bought a suit on when the

Buddha was just about ready to die he

said that monks should not be addressing

each other as friend only address a

junior monk as friend everything in in

the monastics has to do with seniority

bonte is what a junior monk is supposed

to call us a an elder monk somebody

that's been in the Sangha longer but

over the years all of the monks just say

bonte to each other it doesn't matter

where the Virginia or senior bonte is

not a name it is the poly way of saying

Reverend sir venerable sir something

like that

the blessed one that asked him satya is

it true that the following pernicious

view has risen in you as I understand

the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One it

is the same consciousness that runs and

wanders through the rounds of rebirth

not another exactly so venerable sir as

I understand the Dhamma taught by the

Blessed One it is the same consciousness

that runs and wanders through the rounds

of rebirth not another what is that

consciousness thought T venerable sir it

is that which speaks and feels and

expresses experiences here and there the

result of good and bad actions misguided

man to whom have you ever known me to

teach the Dhamma in that way misguided

man have I not stated in many ways

consciousness to be dependently arisen

since without a condition there is no

origination of consciousness but you

misguided men have misrepresented us in

art by you're wrong grasp and injured

yourself and stored up much demerit for

this will lead to your harm and

suffering for a long time then the

blessed one addressed the monks thus

monks what do you think has this monks

at ease son of a fisherman kindled even

a spark of wisdom in this Dhamma and

discipline how could he venerable sir no

venerable sir when this was said the

monks at the son of the fisherman SAT

silent is made with shoulders drooping

and head down blum without response

than knowing this the blessed one told

him misguided men you will be recognized

by your own pernicious view in 25 for

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