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Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.

the women always like this particular

suit because it domine nuh was the wife

of the Sokka

and he was a merchant

and very successful but he started going

and visiting the Buddha and then we

would he would come back from seeing the

Buddha and she would go out to greet him

and take him in and beat him and then

they would go to bed then one day she

came up to greet him he didn't read her

back and he walked into the dining hall

anyway the moussaka came came back from

seeing the Buddha and he didn't read his

wife and she went in and fixed a meal

for him and he didn't say anything then

he got ready for bed and he laid down on

the bed and she got ready for bed and

laid down on the bed beside him like

they always had done and he got up and

laid down on the floor so she thought

it's the strength so she got up and laid

down on the floor and he got up and went

on the bed so she said have I done

something wrong make you angry with me

what's what's happening here and he said

well actually I did some meditation at

that at the Buddhist I in a Buddha's

presence and I became a non egami

and being a non agami means that there

is no lust porn or sacred ever arise in

Kent Emma gallons and he said we can

live like brother and sister or if you

want you can take over the whole house

and do whatever you want and take over

the business that's up to you and she

said well what I really want is to be

coming begoony is that alright with you

we adapt she had to ask permission and

he said yes so she became a bit Cooney

and she did a lot of meditation and

before too long she became an are hot

and she was living at a monastery and

visakha went to visit her and have

dhamma discussions so that's what this

is all about that's have I heard on one

occasion the blessed one was living in

raja kaha the bamboo

the squirrel sanctuaries then the lay

follower he stayed a legs he didn't take

on the ropes went to the Baku need a

medina his former wife and after paying

homage to her sat down as one side and

ask her lady personality personality is

said what is called personality by the

Blessed ones friend moussaka these five

aggregates that are affected by craving

and clinging are called personality by

the blessed one that is the material

form aggregates affected by craving and

cleaning the feeling aggregate affected

by craving and clinging the perception

aggregate affected by Clare craving and

clinging the formations aggregate

affected by craving and cleaning and the

consciousness aggregate affected by

creating and clinging these five

aggregates affected by craving and

clinging are called personality by the

blessed one these five aggregates are

only called personality when they are

affected by craving and clingy and that

means getting carried away with your

your liking and disliking and the story

about it

saying good lady soul a follower nasaka

delighted and rejoiced in the Baku knees

da Medina's words then he asked her a

further question lady origin of

personality origin of personality is

that what is called the origin of

personality by the Blessed ones friends

Osaka it is craving which brings the

renewal of habitual tendency is a

company by delight and lust the lights

and this and that that is craving for

sensual pleasures craving for habitual

tendency and craving for non being this

is called the origin of personality by

the blessed one lady cessation of

personality cessation of personality is

that what is called the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One Brenda

Sokka it is the remainder bliss fading

away and ceasing the giving up

relinquishing letting go and rejecting

of that same craving what are you doing

every time music's are

go of crazy

this is called the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One lady the

way leading to the cessation of

personality the way leading to the

cessation of personality is that what is

the way leading to the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One friend

visakha is just as Noble Eightfold Path

that is harmonious perspective

harmonious imaging harmonious

communication harmonious movement

harmonious lifestyle our money is

practice harmonious observation and

harmonious collectiveness

lady is that clinging the same has these

five aggregates affected by tangy or is

clinging something apart from the five

aggregates affected by craving teeny

friend visakha that clinging is neither

the same as the five aggregates affected

by craving and claiming nor is claiming

something apart from the five aggregates

affected by craving and clingy it is the

desire the lust in regard to the five

aggregates affected by craving and

clinging that is the clinging here

lady how does personality you come to be

here friend a nun Todd ordinary person

who has no regard for the noble ones is

unskilled and undisciplined in their

gamma who has no regard for true men and

is unskilled and undisciplined in their

Dhamma regards material form as self or

self as possessed of material form or

material form as in self or self as in

material form he regards feeling as self

or self as possessed a feeling or

feeling as in self herself as in feeling

he regards perception is self or self as

possessed of perception or perception as

in South for self as in perception he

regards formations as self or self as

possessed of formations or formations as

in self or self as informations he

regards consciousness as self or self as

possessed of consciousness or as

consciousness as in self for self as in

consciousness that is how personality

view comes to be get it

lady how does personality view not come

to be good question here friend visakha

well Todd Noble disciple who has regard

for noble ones and a skilled and

disciplined in their Dhamma who has

regard for true men and his guild and

disciplined in their Dhamma does not

regard material form as self or self as

possessed of material form or material

form as in self for self as in material

form he does not regard feeling as self

for self as possessed of feelings or

feeling as in self or self as in feeling

he does not regard perception as self or

self as possessed of perception for

perception as in self or self as in

perception he does not regard formations

as self or self as possessed of

formations or formations as in self

herself as informations he does not

regard consciousness as self or self as

possessed of consciousness or

consciousness as in self or self as in

consciousness that is how personality

view does not come to be lady what is

the Noble Eightfold Path friend visakha

it is just this noble

a fold path that is harmonious

perspective you remember what harmonious

perspective is seeing everything as

being in person

you see everything as being impersonal

when you see everything is being in

personal num seen this man

when you see everything as part of an

impersonal process there is no

attachment when you see everything has

an impersonal process there is no cream

and then one is in the universal

consciousness one can say no and it is

such a big think I'd know drugs being

and dance in a white bean not from the

not making a proprietor always to

everything work to feeling and craziness

again controls actually much to see it

as an input as

universal energy on which we all hang in

there are small at launching

yeah so oh my god me still experience

it's creepy

they still cling to things and they

still have a tiny bit of crazy

they still have pride thinking that

they're really special because they're

they're who they are

they still have ignorance ignorance

means not seeing the Four Noble Truths

what is a second noble truth the origin

of suffering what is the origin of

suffering crees so there's small amount

that doesn't actually disappear until

you become an hour then you get to come

with me to Missouri State da medina oh

my god I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean

they 100 in the file okay so

restlessness can occur completely

without without lost or heat yes

well the thing is when when lust and

hatred are still within the hindrances

don't they don't come up on each time

they like to gain up and keep you in

your down right so they did they like a

the lust for something with restlessness

it's planning right I really like to

plan this is great stuff there's two

hindrances right there and with a

version

restless comes up I don't like this I

want it to stop so you have two

entrances right there but 16 art takes

care of them all resolution is Prince

abroad her governess many of the

hindrances to me can attack on us yes

they do Richard a cat digging good son

so far none agami there's just like a

lot of movement I wouldn't say a lot I

mean not having less than hate cuts down

a lot of movement and your mind is

exceptionally clear because you don't

have these things clouding you at all

but can they still get restlessness yes

and eat and they still get slot than

tour forget they don't get slot they get

torque

they do have periods of very short

periods of time when they can have a

little dull or they might have a very

small amount of restlessness for right

but it's not going to be overwhelming

like it is right now for all of us okay

somebody knows that but yeah yeah so

when you say they have you know last

major a version and desire now does that

mean that the propensity for it the or

that it's really present at all times no

it's not present at all soapy they come

up when one comes up there's the I like

it or I don't racket in it so it's a

propensity to be able to but what is

then eliminated is the seed of that the

clause for that to arise not completely

well in the arrived let's just say any

are not of course every all load fetters

are gone okay all there is to it but in

the on egami they still have a little

bit of craving and commune left so they

still have some attachment so you said

that we're having you know as we

practice the six hours these are in fact

cessations yes and so from and then

these stages these paths are seems to me

that attained you know 16 hour at a time

until they're sort of you know dropped

yeah they're basically are you dropping

these fetters right incremental e your

you're weakening and till they just are

so many thing fade away and

back

okay and that is because you keep 6rn

you start to get the sense of I go again

all the same time it did the magic cool

that there is night now but that's this

kind of starts to fade away absolutely I

just

no all this this is another whatever

thing coming up max don't get involved

with the story of it don't get involved

with your opinions whether it's good bad

or indifferent so let it be and relax

when you relax you've let go of the

gravy when you've let go of the craving

no clinging camp arrives

no thing you can arise your eventual

tendency dozen tonight when that doesn't

arise earth the birth of action doesn't

arise when that doesn't arise Adrian

death

so you want to be perpetually young

characteristics are very deep that's

young in mind not necessarily perpetual

young your body yeah I can vouch for

that so batta if I could just stick it

doesn't take one step with the few

people that I mean I don't I see older

people now who are yet friends of

parents that are mentally losing it

because they don't meditate or have

never meditated and they just really

don't know what goes on there like

delusional and these were people who

were successful in business and

everything and had a very fine working

mind at one time does meditation this

meditation in fact create a level of

awareness where that doesn't happen well

that's kind of tricky because some of it

is physical things p generation yeah its

physical degeneration but it's a lot of

it comes from the kinds of foods that we

put in our body and you wear deodorant

that has

and then gets into your system and that

starts affecting your mind and a very

are you you drink fluoride in your water

or you use for right in your toothpaste

these are going to affect you later on

in life in a very negative way and that

is the start of the degeneration of mind

but when you eat healthy food and you

practice meditation then did you notice

tunku lucido when he was in his mid 90s

before he died yeah I had an interview

with him I was kind of blown away she

got big shark mine sure cuz he was agile

yeah yeah it just was some ancient man

and he's just bouncing around he didn't

have a large command of English but he

was it was very inspiring oh yeah and

that's what the meditation can do for

you but you have to do it in a balanced

way with the way that you're living and

this part is part of right idly the

right lifestyle

you know I really think not too long ago

that there was a lot of women that were

starting to get both breast cancer and

thyroid cancer and they found out the

cause of that was from the black dye

that we're putting in their hair

when you have that kind of physical

problem it is going to affect the way

you think whether you like to believe it

or not so it's it's kind of a tricky

question that you're asking because it

all depends on not just the factor

that's the mental factor it's the fact

that's body factor too and what has been

put into the body so that would affect

the cognitive ability shirking that kind

of stuff got it the district our memory

oh you got we're making your own karma

by using these kind of things that are

not good for your body right okay so

getting back to the Eightfold Path I was

at a meditation center doing one month

retreat and somebody at the end of the

retreat asked the monk that was teaching

why did the Buddha always talk about

right view first and

my answer is that it is the aspect of

seeing everything as in person and

that's really important aspect that's

why its first and this monk said with a

smirk because that's what the Buddha did

he didn't have a clue

but the whole point of of the meditation

is to see that everything is in fact

just an impersonal process and to

realize that is the goal to realize that

for yourself

okay then we have harmonious imaging

what kind of an image do you hold in

your mind is it harmonious imaging or

unharmonious imagery what does that mean

one of the best examples is money and

talk to some people and they they tell

you that they never have enough money

they're always broke and that's the kind

of image that they hold for themselves

and the universe being the universe that

it is makes it so because that's the

kind of image they hold in your mind all

the time people that are very badly

overweight you talk to them about them

gay they're being overweight and you see

that that's the kind of image that they

hold for themselves well I've been like

this my whole life there's nothing I can

do about it and they keep on holding

this image of being fat and as a result

they eat a lot of things they shouldn't

eat and that makes it makes them back

and they eat in a way that they

shouldn't eat almost every fat person

that you ever see when they chew their

food they chew it once or twice and

swallow

this causes body to get that it's real

hard on the digestion real hard in a lot

of ways the Buddha it is said in the

suit does that whenever he ate food

there wasn't one grain of rice that

wasn't masticated in other words chewed

before he's followed try slowing down

and chewing your food until it turns to

liquid in your mouth and all of a sudden

he'll start noticing how much more

healthy feel it's really amazing and the

Buddha also said that you want to eat

until your stomach is half full

take a quarter for water and leave a

quarter for air and that's how you stay

healthy of course it does take some

decent food

but that's all they had during the time

of the Buddha they had organic food so

what kind of an image do you hold you

hold an image of yourself as being a

successful meditator or an image of

yourself of not being able to understand

or an image of yourself I know it all

what kind of an image do you hold about

yourself that's what the universe gives

to you and when you hold the view that

everything that arises is impersonal

that image will help you to get off of

the wheel of anybody

I believe that thank you okay now we

come to harmonious communication who do

you communicate most with are you nice

to yourself or not there is no such a

thing as try their own is either do or

don't do no track I love you to further

and a good question to ask yourself is

do I like myself right now yeah

am I happy

and if you're not then don't hold on to

being unhappy love yourself let go of

the critical thoughts about what you

think is right

I've said this a couple times during the

retreat but you do 25 things in a day

that are absolutely brilliant that

helped many many people and do one thing

that your mind says was wrong what do

you think about so why don't you start

thinking about the right

when I was in Malaysia there was one man

that he was really negative he was

continually anything he said it came out

negative and finally and told him that

he had to sit down with a piece of paper

and a pen and he had to write down five

things that he really liked about

himself it took him over an hour and

then when he did that he came to me and

I said oh good do five more and when he

came back I said now look at that list

and feel that feel each one of these

things and reflect on how you you are

when you do these things and how you you

start appreciating yourself for being

like this and they said okay when you

get done with that then I want you every

day to make a new list ten qualities

that you really like in yourself can't

repeat do that for a week and what

happens is you start not only looking at

yourself with kindly eyes you start

looking at those qualities and other

people and it really is kind of a fun

practice

try it

I want to see your list then we have

harmonious movement and harmonious

movement is how you treat yourself and

your mind are you jerking yourself

around are you trying to force things

away by this kind of movement stop them

from happening or are you in harmony

with the movement without doing things

too fast without doing them too slow

seeing and letting go of the things that

we get attached letting them be

unplug

okay then we have right lifestyle

harmonious lifestyle and then harmonious

practice harmonious mindfulness and

harmonious collectiveness the harmonious

lifestyle is how are you living are you

living in harmony or are you not that

means with everything around you with

everyone around you are you being in

harmony are you living with harmony and

harmony with yourself

are you living in a way that is

uplifting

that helps not only you with other

people around you

the harmonious practice is the six ours

the harmonious mindfulness is your

observation power and the collectiveness

is having a mind that's calm collected

composed and

still

I had a question yeah suggestion you had

earlier would it be best to make these

lists in the morning or evening it's

just your choice but i want to see him

when you get that

how is practice and collective go to get

it from Ramona is practice is the six RS

the collectiveness is the result of the

harmonious practice

lady is this noble eightfold path

conditioned or unconditioned what do you

think James friend visakha the Noble

Eightfold Path is conditioned lady are

the three aggregates included by the

Noble Eightfold Path or is the Noble

Eightfold Path included by the three

aggregates the three aggregates are

talking about wisdom morality

concentration the three aggregates are

not included in Noble Eightfold Path

friend visakha but the Noble Eightfold

Path is included by these three

aggregates this is where I get into

problems with monks that are scholars

okay right speech right action and right

livelihood these states are included in

the aggregate of virtue when they're

talking about meditation they tell you

don't even have to pay attention to

these three aggregates because we're

already doing but as you saw by the

definitions I was just giving you a

peephole path it all relates to the

meditation so we go round and round with

that so you want to keep teaching a five

fold path not an Eightfold Path if you

say that the that the virtue is isn't

necessary because it's automatic I've

never

any part of the Eightfold Path to be

truly automatic right effort right

mindfulness when ranked collectiveness

these states are included in the

aggregate aggregate of concentration

right view and rights imaging these

states are included in the aggregate of

wisdom now we're going to be talking

about concentration but I don't like to

use that word because it's so

misunderstood so I change this to

collectiveness lady what is collected

pneus what is the basis of

collectiveness what is the equipment of

collectiveness what is the development

of collectiveness unification of minds

of bringing together and staying on your

object to meditation friend misaka is

collected pneus the four foundations of

mindfulness are the basis of

collectiveness the four right kinds of

striding six ours

are the equipment of collectiveness

listen closely the repetition

development and cultivation of these

same states is the development of

collected nasteria ok how much

repetition do you do with the 6rz a few

times ok now we're going to talk about

the formations lady how many formations

are there there are these three

formations Busacca friend Osaka the

bodily formation the verbal formation

and the mental formation but lady what

is the bodily formation what is the

verbal formation what is the mental

formation in breathing and out breathing

friend visakha are the bodily formation

thinking and examining thought are the

verbal formation perception feeling and

consciousness are the mental formation

yeah so the girl information stop at

second down

while you're in meditation yes but does

it stop you from talking outside of the

meditation

already

in and out breath

there is one whose kids huh I'm sorry oh

isn't now what is only in and now friend

because that's nothing

what other things do you want it to

include

um

does it doesn't see it doesn't mean if a

the actual action of the body

you can't live unless you're breathing

in Oh best weapon

but it does not refer to breeding in

economy

oh now listen to this why are in

breathing and out breathing the bodily

formation why are thinking and examining

thought the verbal formation why our

perception feeling and consciousness the

mental formation friend Busacca in

breathing and out breathing our bodily

these states these are states bound up

with the body that is why in breathing

and out breathing are the bottling

formation got it

first one thinks and examines thought

and subsequently one breaks out into

speech that is why thinking and

examining thought are the verbal

formation perception feeling and

consciousness are mental these are

States bound up with mind that is why

perception feeling and consciousness are

mental formation attaining cessation

lady how does the attainment of

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness come to be friend bussaco

when a monk is attaining the cessation

of perception feeling in consciousness

it does not occur to him I shall attain

the cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness or I am attaining the

cessation of perception feeling of

content consciousness or I have attained

the cessation of perception dealing

unconsciousness but rather his mind has

previously been developed in such a way

that it leads him to that state

hey you got it understand it okay lady

when a monk is attaining the cessation

of perception feeling and consciousness

which state sees in him first the bodily

formation of verbal formation or the

mental formation friend Busacca when a

monk is attaining the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

first the valve verbal formation cease

then the bodily formation and the mental

formation that's the order of the CC

lady how does emergence from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

come to be how do you get out of the

state friend Masako when a monk is

emerging from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness it does not occur to him I

shall emerge from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness or I'm emerging from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness or

I have emerged from the attainment of

the cessation feeling of consciousness

but rather his mind has previously been

developed in such a way that him it

leads into that state so what happens

when you steal or when you experience

the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness you

will be in that state for a little while

the first time that happens let's take

my last five minutes ten minutes

something like that not very long and

then we'll come out by itself and then

because your mind is so pure they had no

perception no feeling and no

consciousness at that time that is why

you're able to see the links of

dependent origination how they arise and

how they cease all of these are

conditions one thing conditions another

when it comes to the cessation when this

doesn't arise that won't arise when that

won't arise this one or right and you

come down to the formations and finally

you see the cessation of the Four Noble

Truths you see the cessation of

ignorance now there's no more conditions

you've seen all the conditions and you

let them go that's how your mind gets

into the pumpkin

you've let go of all of these concepts

and then you get to the place of no

concepts that is the unconditioned state

that is Nevada how work

now there's actually three paths that

you can take to attain me but first you

have to get to the 4th job that's the

start of it if your mind is very

intelligent but not particularly

sensitive to feeling then you go through

all of the our pajamas and the cessation

of perception and feeling and then

seeing dependent origination in the

bottom that's one way if your mind is it

can be intelligent but not particular

but very particularly sensitive to

feeling this is when psychic abilities

start happening and they happen by

themselves

but the last of the psychic abilities is

the cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness and then seeing dependent

origination and

but then the last way of attaining this

is by getting to the 4th jhana

remembering past lifetimes then

this is where you develop the divine

here in the divine I you start visiting

beings in other realms you see they're

passing away and arising from one won't

realm to another and you can talk to

them and you can find out what they've

been doing in their last few lifetimes

and why they're in this realm whether

it's a heavenly realm or brahmaloka or a

day belocca doesn't matter it can be a

hell realm it can be a hungry ghosts

realm it can be any of these realms what

happens is you start to see dependent

origination of rising in them and you

see how it works and then there is the

cessation of perception and dealing then

you actually see this and then you

attain nirvana

now the thing is of these three paths

the one that I call the fast track is

the way that the Buddha did was called

in poly is called tbj nidra as wisdom

teaches three this is the three wisdoms

so you're seeing past lives you're

seeing a rata passing away and rising of

beings and different realms in you're

seeing it dependent origination Endicott

that way

many monks practice that way during the

time

I prefer to teach going through all of

the jobs and going through the aruba

johns mostly because people in America

are incredibly intelligent

and it takes a good 5 to 10 years to

develop peace I haven't

spontaneous happening it takes a lot of

work to develop the skill to be able to

fly in the air or read other person's

mind walk through walls and things like

that dive into the earth

and you think that the up ray of the

western line has a lot to do with that

intellect

you know I i I've considered this a lot

and haven't really come up with an

answer yet we learn in a lot different

way than the Asians burn the Asians do

things for repetitious and that could

have a lot to do with their sensitivity

to feeling and also there they have very

much stronger family ties and that could

have something to do with their

sensitive to feelings you know I've seen

Asian families where the youngest son

was forty-five years old still living at

home and it wasn't because he was lazy

he was going out working all the time he

could live by himself but his family

wanted him close and he got married and

he took us his wife and moved into them

I mean she moved into the family too

that doesn't happen in America so much

we're taught to be more quote

independent and I think that might have

something to do with the lack of

sensitivity to I mean when you give with

a group of people and you live with them

on for a long period of time you can

each other's thinking right but in our

country what what we're encouraged to do

is when you get out of high school get

out of the house and then then you lose

that possibility of having that

sensitivity and that's kind of a problem

I suspect in the last two a lot has to

do with sensitive Questor enlightenment

with the rise of science and the whole

kind of objective thinking really

suppressed a lot of wise leaders in the

other way of thinking that's it was

poured out on the best up until about

1700s and still run out of cultures

the other ones

well you know what you think and ponder

on what we're taught to think and ponder

on is science and not spirituality and

not sensitivity we're not taught to have

that come up as much as it could yeah I

also think subcultures are more luck

worrying and others are more ripe berry

but that that comes from a variety of

different reasons and one of the biggest

one is the family and the small villages

without the flashing lights and loud

music and things of the city I mean when

I went out into Burma and I started

teaching meditation in Burma I was

completely shocked at how fast everybody

caught on I mean in a week or ten days

they were gay and it wasn't this kind of

meditation that I was teaching I was

teaching the casa de and they were

getting into in 10 days they were

getting into Sanka Rebecca equanimity

two formations and that's very deep in

10 days

you know not bad

but it wasn't just one person I mean

this was like at this one village I went

to there must have been 15 people that

took the retreat in 10 of them got to

that state it was amazing and having a

small village living in a small

community where you can share where you

can me where you're completely secure

that helps opening up the ability to get

into the other parts of the brain but

because we live where the way we do in

the and how we do with the electronic

age and if you have to wait for two

minutes for your computer to do

something you're pounding and say god

this is slow i wish you to hurry up but

somebody that lives on the farm they're

not doing that they just say okay yes

and then they'll sit there has been a

date for a minute or two it's no big

deal so it's all in the way that we

perceive and the way that we live

so after cessation apparently from the

description of the sea scene of the

bodily formations the in and out breath

the breath itself would cease for the

eris Luke I'm so it's done there's no

breathing for five or ten minutes and a

body that is experiencing sensation

breath goes through the years happen it

happens by itself the the actual thing

that happens is your heartbeat slows

down it doesn't completely stopped but

it slows down to like two or three a

minute oh so there's not enough of need

for oxygen at that time so it's almost a

nap close close you'll get to see that

in okay hold on boy let me just finish

my question so that it would follow that

when these formations realized that they

would arise in the reverse order in the

facies to see that just

okay lady when a monk is emerging from

the attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

which states arise in him first bodily

formation verbal formation or mental

formation friend visakha when a monk is

emerging from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness first the mental formation

arises then the bodily formation arises

then the verbal formation arises lady

when a monk has emerged from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness how

many kinds of contact touch him bread

moussaka when a monk has emerged from

the attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling of dealing in

consciousness three kinds of contact

touch him voidness contact sign lyst

contact and desireless contact

that's what you experience while you're

in that cessation of perception feeling

and consciousness lady when a monk is

emerged from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness to what does his mind

inclined to what does it lead to what

does it tend friend hosaka when a monk

has emerged from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness his mind inclines to

seclusion leans to seclusion tends to

seclusion don't feel like did you feel

like sitting just being by yourself not

popping out say hey now you do today

that's what silence contact there are

you know what a sign is you don't know

what assignments inhibitor

but silence contact means that there is

no disturbance there is no signs and

features coming up in your in your mind

why because there's no perception

there's no feeling there's no

consciousness so there is no sign that's

why it's assignments okay and the was it

the link would what is what is the void

pneus it means that there is nothing

that arises at that time

it is void of everything that can

possibly arise

lady how many kinds of feeling are there

from the sakha there are three kinds of

feeling pleasant feeling painful feeling

and neither painful or pleasant feeling

but lady what is pleasant feeling what

is painful feeling what is neither

painful more pleasant feeling friend

bussaco whatever is felt bodily or

mentally as pleasure as pleasant and

soothing is pleasant feeling whatever is

felt bodily and mentally as painful and

hurting is a painful feeling whatever is

felt bodily or mentally as neither

soothing nor hurting is neither painful

nor pleasant feeling lady what is

pleasant and what is painful in regard

to pleasant feeling what is painful and

what is pleasant in regard to painful

feeling what is pleasant and what is

painful in regard to neither painful

more pleasant feelings friend this acha

pleasant feeling is pleasant when it

persists and painful when it changes

right

we've been sitting long enough to

recognize that as being true remember

painful feeling is painful when it

persists and pleasant when it changes is

that right neither painful more pleasant

feeling is pleasant when there is

knowledge of it and painful when there

is no knowledge of it okay so neither

either painful my pleasantest actually

pleasant

when you know that it's there and what

is that actually referring to its

referring to when you have neither

painful more pleasant feeling it is

pleasant when you have equanimity and

when you do not it is not blessed in

other words your mindfulness is is

caught up with indifference and it's

very weak so you don't really recognize

this and that in itself causes you to

get caught up in your thinking and your

your your whole situation with what

you're thinking about and that sort of

thing so it's boring an example of that

absolutely go through it

boredom is a great sign it is absolutely

one of the best signs that you can have

when you're meditating when you said go

through it explain 6rf allowed to be

who's bored but same with indifference

yes that's Matt that's Matt festive

tourism for them or can be I suppose it

can or not but boredom is is a great

sign I love to see it when people have

it

it's a sign of your development

it's a sign that you're working

and you're repeating something over and

over and over again and you're bored

with it who's bored

whose attack all you need to do is let

go that very simple thing six art and on

the other side of that is something good

okay

Jessica laughs at all you want to

so that in the same category as

disenchantment and a difference that's a

lesser category of it but it's getting

there that's it lady what underlying

tendency underlies pleasant feeling what

underlying tendency underlies painful

feelings

what underlying tendency underlies

neither painful nor pleasant feeling

friendly saka the underlying tendency to

lust underlies being a pleasant feeling

the underlying tendency to aversion

underlies painful feeling the underlying

tendency to ignorance underlies the

neither painful more pleasant feeling

lady does the underlying tendency to

lust underlie all pleasant feeling does

the underlying tendency to aversion

underlie all painful feeling does the

underlying tendency to ignorance

underlie all neither painful more

pleasant feeling Brenda Sokka the

underlying tendency to lust is not

underlie all paid pleasant feeling the

underlying to tendency the underlying

tendency to aversion does not underlie

all painful feeling the underlying

tendency to ignorance does not underlie

all neither painful more pleasant

feeling lady what should be abandoned in

regard to pleasant feeling what should

be abandoned in regard to painful

feeling what should be abandoned and

regard to neither painful more pleasant

feeling Brenda Sokka the underlying

tendency to lust should be abandoned in

regard to pleasant feeling so the

underlying tendency to lust means to be

let go of when there is a pleasant

feeling right

six are that pleasant feeling the

underlying tendency to aversion should

be abandoned in regard to painful

feeling how many people here do that

underlying tendency

the aversion of the painful feeling

Joe heads nobody some anyway the

underlying tendon its tendency to

ignorance should be abandoned in regard

to neither painful nor pleasant feeling

lady does the underlying tendency to

lust have to be abandoned in regard to I

just read that okay does the underlying

tendency to lust have to be abandoned in

regard to all pleasant feeling does the

underlying tendency to aversion have to

be abandoned in regard to all painful

feeling does the underlying tendency to

ignorance have to be abandoned in regard

to all neither painful more pleasant

feeling friends Osaka the underlying

tendency to lust does not have to be

abandoned in regard to all pleasant

feeling the underlying tendency to

aversion does not have to be abandoned

in regard to all painful feeling the

underlying tendency to ignorance does

not have to be abandoned in regard to

neither painful or pleasant feeling here

friend visakha quite secluded from

sensual pleasures secluded from

unwholesome states among enters upon an

abides in the first round which is

accompanied by thinking and examining

thought with joy and happiness born of

seclusion with that he abandons lust and

the underlying tendency to lust does not

underlie that

then that doesn't that statement right

there doesn't that say that you don't

become attached to Jonas doesn't it yeah

that was pretty good job with it here's

your argument right I remember that 128

suit too wordy war-era monk considers

thus when shall I enter upon and abide

in the base that the noble ones now

entering upon and abide in in one who

thus generates a longing for the supreme

liberation brief arises with that long

with that he abandons a version in the

underlying tendency to aversion and does

not underlie that here with the

abandoning of pleasure and pain with a

previous disappearance of joy and grief

amok enters upon and abides in the 4th

jhana which has neither pain nor

pleasure and purity of mindfulness duty

equanimity with that he abandons

ignorance and the underlying tendency to

a tendency to ignorance does not

underlie that by underlying by

abandoning ignorance what he's talking

about is developing equanimity

lady what is the counterpart of pleasant

feeling friend asanka painful feeling is

the counterpart of pleasant feeling what

is the counterpart of painful feeling

pleasant feeling is a counterpart of

painful feeling what is the counterpart

of neither painful more pleasant feeling

ignorance is the counterpart of neither

painful more pleasant feeling what is

the counterpart of ignorance true

knowledge is a counterpart of excuse me

ignorance what is the counterpart of

true knowledge deliverance is the

counterpart of true knowledge what is

the counterpart of deliverance Nibhana

is the counterpart of deliverance lady

what is the counterpart of Nibhana

friend moussaka you have pushed this

line of questioning too far

you were not able to grasp the limit to

the questions for the holy life friend

Vaisakhi merges in Nibhana culminates in

nevada and ends in the bottom if you

wish friend Busacca go to the blessed

one and ask him about the meaning of

this as the blessed one explains it to

you you should remember it then lady the

Leigh follower visakha having delighted

and rejoiced in New bhikkhuni da

Medina's words rose from his seat and

after paying homage to her keeping her

on the right he went to the blessed one

after paying homage to him he sat down

at one side and told the blessed one his

entire conversation with the Baku need a

medina when he fished finish speaking

the blue the blessed one told him the

Baku need a medina is wise the Baku

needa Medina has great wisdom if you had

asked me the meaning of this I would

have explained it to you in the same way

that the Baku need a medina has

explained it such is its meaning and so

you should remember it that is what the

Blessed ones that the way power of

Hassakeh was satisfied and delight

in the Blessed ones words the thing with

Baku need a medina which she was

foremost in expounding the dump of all

of the because he was really good one we

really understood it and she could say

it to you in a way that she'd understand

okay daddy questions we've been asking

questions all the time yeah that was

this waiting for the answer for this and

we're sitting show Coughlin when he said

the honor when she said the underlying

County where Las does not have to be

abandoned in regard to all puzzles right

getting into drama

ok so the joy that arises in the channel

not have to be a man but

so on it's all pervasive yeah that's

right this is one of the Enlightenment

factors

let's see if I can throw this out there

navona is unconditional and the bonnet

creek you can have navona become a soda

pop and become socketed Elmo on the

downy bird however it seems like it is

the lower ones until your air hot it is

not a fun conditioned state because

there is craving at certain points with

those certain feds know now while you're

in it it is unconditioned when you come

out of it because you haven't you

haven't gone deep enough when you come

out of it those conditions and the right

so it's that state accessible once

you've before East sort of on a second

egami time ago it's what state navona

decision can't obtain it if you don't

but can they repeatedly accessible

easily only the Nibhana is only

experienced twice by each of those

states ok it's only experienced twice

they can get into the cessation of

perception and dealing if you are on

agami for an are hot many times but you

will not

you will not see dependent origination

which you cannot know

so why do it really

you think you have relief now with a

little bit of stillness of my think

about students being able to sit for

seven days without having your mind move

without even having consciousness

I'll check

and don't not while you're in that state

you have to make a determination to come

out of that state

in another suit

okay we start talking about the by

faculties this is the suitor right

before this suit 243 we're going to

section 21 the PI bakal t friend these

five faculties each have a separate

field a separate domain and do not

experience each other's field and domain

that is the I faculty year faculty nose

faculty tug faculty and body faculty now

these five faculties each have a

separate field a separate domain not

experiencing each other's field or

domain what is it talking about you know

here through your eyes you don't smell

through your through your ears they each

have their own their own realm each of

these by faculties what is their resort

what experience is their field and

domains friend these five faculties each

have a separate field as separate domain

and do not experience each other's field

and though

that is the I faculty year faculty those

faculty ton faculty and Biden faculty

now these five faculties each have a

separate field and a separate domain not

experiencing each other's build and

don't mean they have mine as their

resort and mind experiences their fields

and domains okay

friend as to these five faculties that

is the eye ear nose tongue body faculty

what do these five faculty stand in

dependence on friend as to these five

faculties that is the eye ear nose

tongue and body faculties by faculty

stand in dependence on vitality okay

Fred what does vitality stand in

dependence on vitality stands in

dependence on heat friend what does heat

stand in dependence on your gonna love

this answer he stands in dependence on

vitality just now friend we understood

the venerable sorry booted to have said

vitality stands and dependence on heat

and now we understand him to say he

stands in dependence on vitality how

should the meaning of this statement be

regarded think it's a good question in

that case friend I shall give you

assembly for some wise men here

understand the meaning of a statement by

means of assembly just as when an oil

lamp is burning its radiance is seen in

dependence on its flame and its flame is

seen in dependence on its radiance

one without the other right here

dependent on each other

so to vitality stands and dependence on

heat and heat stands in dependence on

vitality ok friends are vital formation

states of feeling or are vital

formations one thing in states of

feeling another vital formations friend

is not our vital formations friend are

not states of feeling if bio formations

were states of healing then when a monk

has entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness he

would not be seen to emerge from it ok

because vital formations are one thing

and states of feeling another when a

monk is entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

here he can be seen to emerge from it

friend when this body is to be reaped of

how many states is it then discarded

forsaken left lying senseless like a log

friend when this body is bereaved of

three states vitality heat and

consciousness it is then discarded and

forsaken left senseless like like a love

that means dying friend what is the

difference between one who is dead and

one who has completed his time in a monk

who has entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

friend in the case of one who is dead

who has completed his time his bodily

formation subsea stand subsided his

verbal formations have ceased and

subsided his mental formations have

ceased and subsided his vitality is

exhausted his heat has been dissipated

and his faculties are fully broken up in

the case of a monk who has entered upon

the cessation of perception and feeling

and consciousness his bodily formations

have seized and subsided his verbal

formations have ceased and subsided his

mental formations have ceased and

subsided but his

eyetality is not exhausted his heat has

not been dissipated and his faculties

become exceptionally clear this is the

difference between one who is dead and

one who and who has completed his time

and a monk who is entered upon the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness so when yours when you're

in the cessation of perception feeling

and and consciousness you still have the

heat in your body and you still have

vitality in your body that will last for

seven days at the most

now getting out of that state you have

to make a determination before you go

into that state that means when you are

on agami all right I've talked to some

of you a little bit about learning how

to develop mastery of going in and out

of the Javas this is learning how to

develop your determinations so when you

get to be an auto gommi and you make a

determination it will happen the way you

want so you make a determination well

I've got six and a half days and then I

have to do something so you make the

determination to go in and out of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness for six days 12 hours and

27 seconds and then you go into that and

because of that determination you will

come out at exactly that to the second

you

the women always like this particular

suit because it domine nuh was the wife

of the Sokka

and he was a merchant

and very successful but he started going

and visiting the Buddha and then we

would he would come back from seeing the

Buddha and she would go out to greet him

and take him in and beat him and then

they would go to bed then one day she

came up to greet him he didn't read her

back and he walked into the dining hall

anyway the moussaka came came back from

seeing the Buddha and he didn't read his

wife and she went in and fixed a meal

for him and he didn't say anything then

he got ready for bed and he laid down on

the bed and she got ready for bed and

laid down on the bed beside him like

they always had done and he got up and

laid down on the floor so she thought

it's the strength so she got up and laid

down on the floor and he got up and went

on the bed so she said have I done

something wrong make you angry with me

what's what's happening here and he said

well actually I did some meditation at

that at the Buddhist I in a Buddha's

presence and I became a non egami

and being a non agami means that there

is no lust porn or sacred ever arise in

Kent Emma gallons and he said we can

live like brother and sister or if you

want you can take over the whole house

and do whatever you want and take over

the business that's up to you and she

said well what I really want is to be

coming begoony is that alright with you

we adapt she had to ask permission and

he said yes so she became a bit Cooney

and she did a lot of meditation and

before too long she became an are hot

and she was living at a monastery and

visakha went to visit her and have

dhamma discussions so that's what this

is all about that's have I heard on one

occasion the blessed one was living in

raja kaha the bamboo

the squirrel sanctuaries then the lay

follower he stayed a legs he didn't take

on the ropes went to the Baku need a

medina his former wife and after paying

homage to her sat down as one side and

ask her lady personality personality is

said what is called personality by the

Blessed ones friend moussaka these five

aggregates that are affected by craving

and clinging are called personality by

the blessed one that is the material

form aggregates affected by craving and

cleaning the feeling aggregate affected

by craving and clinging the perception

aggregate affected by Clare craving and

clinging the formations aggregate

affected by craving and cleaning and the

consciousness aggregate affected by

creating and clinging these five

aggregates affected by craving and

clinging are called personality by the

blessed one these five aggregates are

only called personality when they are

affected by craving and clingy and that

means getting carried away with your

your liking and disliking and the story

about it

saying good lady soul a follower nasaka

delighted and rejoiced in the Baku knees

da Medina's words then he asked her a

further question lady origin of

personality origin of personality is

that what is called the origin of

personality by the Blessed ones friends

Osaka it is craving which brings the

renewal of habitual tendency is a

company by delight and lust the lights

and this and that that is craving for

sensual pleasures craving for habitual

tendency and craving for non being this

is called the origin of personality by

the blessed one lady cessation of

personality cessation of personality is

that what is called the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One Brenda

Sokka it is the remainder bliss fading

away and ceasing the giving up

relinquishing letting go and rejecting

of that same craving what are you doing

every time music's are

go of crazy

this is called the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One lady the

way leading to the cessation of

personality the way leading to the

cessation of personality is that what is

the way leading to the cessation of

personality by the Blessed One friend

visakha is just as Noble Eightfold Path

that is harmonious perspective

harmonious imaging harmonious

communication harmonious movement

harmonious lifestyle our money is

practice harmonious observation and

harmonious collectiveness

lady is that clinging the same has these

five aggregates affected by tangy or is

clinging something apart from the five

aggregates affected by craving teeny

friend visakha that clinging is neither

the same as the five aggregates affected

by craving and claiming nor is claiming

something apart from the five aggregates

affected by craving and clingy it is the

desire the lust in regard to the five

aggregates affected by craving and

clinging that is the clinging here

lady how does personality you come to be

here friend a nun Todd ordinary person

who has no regard for the noble ones is

unskilled and undisciplined in their

gamma who has no regard for true men and

is unskilled and undisciplined in their

Dhamma regards material form as self or

self as possessed of material form or

material form as in self or self as in

material form he regards feeling as self

or self as possessed a feeling or

feeling as in self herself as in feeling

he regards perception is self or self as

possessed of perception or perception as

in South for self as in perception he

regards formations as self or self as

possessed of formations or formations as

in self or self as informations he

regards consciousness as self or self as

possessed of consciousness or as

consciousness as in self for self as in

consciousness that is how personality

view comes to be get it

lady how does personality view not come

to be good question here friend visakha

well Todd Noble disciple who has regard

for noble ones and a skilled and

disciplined in their Dhamma who has

regard for true men and his guild and

disciplined in their Dhamma does not

regard material form as self or self as

possessed of material form or material

form as in self for self as in material

form he does not regard feeling as self

for self as possessed of feelings or

feeling as in self or self as in feeling

he does not regard perception as self or

self as possessed of perception for

perception as in self or self as in

perception he does not regard formations

as self or self as possessed of

formations or formations as in self

herself as informations he does not

regard consciousness as self or self as

possessed of consciousness or

consciousness as in self or self as in

consciousness that is how personality

view does not come to be lady what is

the Noble Eightfold Path friend visakha

it is just this noble

a fold path that is harmonious

perspective you remember what harmonious

perspective is seeing everything as

being in person

you see everything as being impersonal

when you see everything is being in

personal num seen this man

when you see everything as part of an

impersonal process there is no

attachment when you see everything has

an impersonal process there is no cream

and then one is in the universal

consciousness one can say no and it is

such a big think I'd know drugs being

and dance in a white bean not from the

not making a proprietor always to

everything work to feeling and craziness

again controls actually much to see it

as an input as

universal energy on which we all hang in

there are small at launching

yeah so oh my god me still experience

it's creepy

they still cling to things and they

still have a tiny bit of crazy

they still have pride thinking that

they're really special because they're

they're who they are

they still have ignorance ignorance

means not seeing the Four Noble Truths

what is a second noble truth the origin

of suffering what is the origin of

suffering crees so there's small amount

that doesn't actually disappear until

you become an hour then you get to come

with me to Missouri State da medina oh

my god I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean

they 100 in the file okay so

restlessness can occur completely

without without lost or heat yes

well the thing is when when lust and

hatred are still within the hindrances

don't they don't come up on each time

they like to gain up and keep you in

your down right so they did they like a

the lust for something with restlessness

it's planning right I really like to

plan this is great stuff there's two

hindrances right there and with a

version

restless comes up I don't like this I

want it to stop so you have two

entrances right there but 16 art takes

care of them all resolution is Prince

abroad her governess many of the

hindrances to me can attack on us yes

they do Richard a cat digging good son

so far none agami there's just like a

lot of movement I wouldn't say a lot I

mean not having less than hate cuts down

a lot of movement and your mind is

exceptionally clear because you don't

have these things clouding you at all

but can they still get restlessness yes

and eat and they still get slot than

tour forget they don't get slot they get

torque

they do have periods of very short

periods of time when they can have a

little dull or they might have a very

small amount of restlessness for right

but it's not going to be overwhelming

like it is right now for all of us okay

somebody knows that but yeah yeah so

when you say they have you know last

major a version and desire now does that

mean that the propensity for it the or

that it's really present at all times no

it's not present at all soapy they come

up when one comes up there's the I like

it or I don't racket in it so it's a

propensity to be able to but what is

then eliminated is the seed of that the

clause for that to arise not completely

well in the arrived let's just say any

are not of course every all load fetters

are gone okay all there is to it but in

the on egami they still have a little

bit of craving and commune left so they

still have some attachment so you said

that we're having you know as we

practice the six hours these are in fact

cessations yes and so from and then

these stages these paths are seems to me

that attained you know 16 hour at a time

until they're sort of you know dropped

yeah they're basically are you dropping

these fetters right incremental e your

you're weakening and till they just are

so many thing fade away and

back

okay and that is because you keep 6rn

you start to get the sense of I go again

all the same time it did the magic cool

that there is night now but that's this

kind of starts to fade away absolutely I

just

no all this this is another whatever

thing coming up max don't get involved

with the story of it don't get involved

with your opinions whether it's good bad

or indifferent so let it be and relax

when you relax you've let go of the

gravy when you've let go of the craving

no clinging camp arrives

no thing you can arise your eventual

tendency dozen tonight when that doesn't

arise earth the birth of action doesn't

arise when that doesn't arise Adrian

death

so you want to be perpetually young

characteristics are very deep that's

young in mind not necessarily perpetual

young your body yeah I can vouch for

that so batta if I could just stick it

doesn't take one step with the few

people that I mean I don't I see older

people now who are yet friends of

parents that are mentally losing it

because they don't meditate or have

never meditated and they just really

don't know what goes on there like

delusional and these were people who

were successful in business and

everything and had a very fine working

mind at one time does meditation this

meditation in fact create a level of

awareness where that doesn't happen well

that's kind of tricky because some of it

is physical things p generation yeah its

physical degeneration but it's a lot of

it comes from the kinds of foods that we

put in our body and you wear deodorant

that has

and then gets into your system and that

starts affecting your mind and a very

are you you drink fluoride in your water

or you use for right in your toothpaste

these are going to affect you later on

in life in a very negative way and that

is the start of the degeneration of mind

but when you eat healthy food and you

practice meditation then did you notice

tunku lucido when he was in his mid 90s

before he died yeah I had an interview

with him I was kind of blown away she

got big shark mine sure cuz he was agile

yeah yeah it just was some ancient man

and he's just bouncing around he didn't

have a large command of English but he

was it was very inspiring oh yeah and

that's what the meditation can do for

you but you have to do it in a balanced

way with the way that you're living and

this part is part of right idly the

right lifestyle

you know I really think not too long ago

that there was a lot of women that were

starting to get both breast cancer and

thyroid cancer and they found out the

cause of that was from the black dye

that we're putting in their hair

when you have that kind of physical

problem it is going to affect the way

you think whether you like to believe it

or not so it's it's kind of a tricky

question that you're asking because it

all depends on not just the factor

that's the mental factor it's the fact

that's body factor too and what has been

put into the body so that would affect

the cognitive ability shirking that kind

of stuff got it the district our memory

oh you got we're making your own karma

by using these kind of things that are

not good for your body right okay so

getting back to the Eightfold Path I was

at a meditation center doing one month

retreat and somebody at the end of the

retreat asked the monk that was teaching

why did the Buddha always talk about

right view first and

my answer is that it is the aspect of

seeing everything as in person and

that's really important aspect that's

why its first and this monk said with a

smirk because that's what the Buddha did

he didn't have a clue

but the whole point of of the meditation

is to see that everything is in fact

just an impersonal process and to

realize that is the goal to realize that

for yourself

okay then we have harmonious imaging

what kind of an image do you hold in

your mind is it harmonious imaging or

unharmonious imagery what does that mean

one of the best examples is money and

talk to some people and they they tell

you that they never have enough money

they're always broke and that's the kind

of image that they hold for themselves

and the universe being the universe that

it is makes it so because that's the

kind of image they hold in your mind all

the time people that are very badly

overweight you talk to them about them

gay they're being overweight and you see

that that's the kind of image that they

hold for themselves well I've been like

this my whole life there's nothing I can

do about it and they keep on holding

this image of being fat and as a result

they eat a lot of things they shouldn't

eat and that makes it makes them back

and they eat in a way that they

shouldn't eat almost every fat person

that you ever see when they chew their

food they chew it once or twice and

swallow

this causes body to get that it's real

hard on the digestion real hard in a lot

of ways the Buddha it is said in the

suit does that whenever he ate food

there wasn't one grain of rice that

wasn't masticated in other words chewed

before he's followed try slowing down

and chewing your food until it turns to

liquid in your mouth and all of a sudden

he'll start noticing how much more

healthy feel it's really amazing and the

Buddha also said that you want to eat

until your stomach is half full

take a quarter for water and leave a

quarter for air and that's how you stay

healthy of course it does take some

decent food

but that's all they had during the time

of the Buddha they had organic food so

what kind of an image do you hold you

hold an image of yourself as being a

successful meditator or an image of

yourself of not being able to understand

or an image of yourself I know it all

what kind of an image do you hold about

yourself that's what the universe gives

to you and when you hold the view that

everything that arises is impersonal

that image will help you to get off of

the wheel of anybody

I believe that thank you okay now we

come to harmonious communication who do

you communicate most with are you nice

to yourself or not there is no such a

thing as try their own is either do or

don't do no track I love you to further

and a good question to ask yourself is

do I like myself right now yeah

am I happy

and if you're not then don't hold on to

being unhappy love yourself let go of

the critical thoughts about what you

think is right

I've said this a couple times during the

retreat but you do 25 things in a day

that are absolutely brilliant that

helped many many people and do one thing

that your mind says was wrong what do

you think about so why don't you start

thinking about the right

when I was in Malaysia there was one man

that he was really negative he was

continually anything he said it came out

negative and finally and told him that

he had to sit down with a piece of paper

and a pen and he had to write down five

things that he really liked about

himself it took him over an hour and

then when he did that he came to me and

I said oh good do five more and when he

came back I said now look at that list

and feel that feel each one of these

things and reflect on how you you are

when you do these things and how you you

start appreciating yourself for being

like this and they said okay when you

get done with that then I want you every

day to make a new list ten qualities

that you really like in yourself can't

repeat do that for a week and what

happens is you start not only looking at

yourself with kindly eyes you start

looking at those qualities and other

people and it really is kind of a fun

practice

try it

I want to see your list then we have

harmonious movement and harmonious

movement is how you treat yourself and

your mind are you jerking yourself

around are you trying to force things

away by this kind of movement stop them

from happening or are you in harmony

with the movement without doing things

too fast without doing them too slow

seeing and letting go of the things that

we get attached letting them be

unplug

okay then we have right lifestyle

harmonious lifestyle and then harmonious

practice harmonious mindfulness and

harmonious collectiveness the harmonious

lifestyle is how are you living are you

living in harmony or are you not that

means with everything around you with

everyone around you are you being in

harmony are you living with harmony and

harmony with yourself

are you living in a way that is

uplifting

that helps not only you with other

people around you

the harmonious practice is the six ours

the harmonious mindfulness is your

observation power and the collectiveness

is having a mind that's calm collected

composed and

still

I had a question yeah suggestion you had

earlier would it be best to make these

lists in the morning or evening it's

just your choice but i want to see him

when you get that

how is practice and collective go to get

it from Ramona is practice is the six RS

the collectiveness is the result of the

harmonious practice

lady is this noble eightfold path

conditioned or unconditioned what do you

think James friend visakha the Noble

Eightfold Path is conditioned lady are

the three aggregates included by the

Noble Eightfold Path or is the Noble

Eightfold Path included by the three

aggregates the three aggregates are

talking about wisdom morality

concentration the three aggregates are

not included in Noble Eightfold Path

friend visakha but the Noble Eightfold

Path is included by these three

aggregates this is where I get into

problems with monks that are scholars

okay right speech right action and right

livelihood these states are included in

the aggregate of virtue when they're

talking about meditation they tell you

don't even have to pay attention to

these three aggregates because we're

already doing but as you saw by the

definitions I was just giving you a

peephole path it all relates to the

meditation so we go round and round with

that so you want to keep teaching a five

fold path not an Eightfold Path if you

say that the that the virtue is isn't

necessary because it's automatic I've

never

any part of the Eightfold Path to be

truly automatic right effort right

mindfulness when ranked collectiveness

these states are included in the

aggregate aggregate of concentration

right view and rights imaging these

states are included in the aggregate of

wisdom now we're going to be talking

about concentration but I don't like to

use that word because it's so

misunderstood so I change this to

collectiveness lady what is collected

pneus what is the basis of

collectiveness what is the equipment of

collectiveness what is the development

of collectiveness unification of minds

of bringing together and staying on your

object to meditation friend misaka is

collected pneus the four foundations of

mindfulness are the basis of

collectiveness the four right kinds of

striding six ours

are the equipment of collectiveness

listen closely the repetition

development and cultivation of these

same states is the development of

collected nasteria ok how much

repetition do you do with the 6rz a few

times ok now we're going to talk about

the formations lady how many formations

are there there are these three

formations Busacca friend Osaka the

bodily formation the verbal formation

and the mental formation but lady what

is the bodily formation what is the

verbal formation what is the mental

formation in breathing and out breathing

friend visakha are the bodily formation

thinking and examining thought are the

verbal formation perception feeling and

consciousness are the mental formation

yeah so the girl information stop at

second down

while you're in meditation yes but does

it stop you from talking outside of the

meditation

already

in and out breath

there is one whose kids huh I'm sorry oh

isn't now what is only in and now friend

because that's nothing

what other things do you want it to

include

um

does it doesn't see it doesn't mean if a

the actual action of the body

you can't live unless you're breathing

in Oh best weapon

but it does not refer to breeding in

economy

oh now listen to this why are in

breathing and out breathing the bodily

formation why are thinking and examining

thought the verbal formation why our

perception feeling and consciousness the

mental formation friend Busacca in

breathing and out breathing our bodily

these states these are states bound up

with the body that is why in breathing

and out breathing are the bottling

formation got it

first one thinks and examines thought

and subsequently one breaks out into

speech that is why thinking and

examining thought are the verbal

formation perception feeling and

consciousness are mental these are

States bound up with mind that is why

perception feeling and consciousness are

mental formation attaining cessation

lady how does the attainment of

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness come to be friend bussaco

when a monk is attaining the cessation

of perception feeling in consciousness

it does not occur to him I shall attain

the cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness or I am attaining the

cessation of perception feeling of

content consciousness or I have attained

the cessation of perception dealing

unconsciousness but rather his mind has

previously been developed in such a way

that it leads him to that state

hey you got it understand it okay lady

when a monk is attaining the cessation

of perception feeling and consciousness

which state sees in him first the bodily

formation of verbal formation or the

mental formation friend Busacca when a

monk is attaining the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

first the valve verbal formation cease

then the bodily formation and the mental

formation that's the order of the CC

lady how does emergence from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

come to be how do you get out of the

state friend Masako when a monk is

emerging from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness it does not occur to him I

shall emerge from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness or I'm emerging from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness or

I have emerged from the attainment of

the cessation feeling of consciousness

but rather his mind has previously been

developed in such a way that him it

leads into that state so what happens

when you steal or when you experience

the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness you

will be in that state for a little while

the first time that happens let's take

my last five minutes ten minutes

something like that not very long and

then we'll come out by itself and then

because your mind is so pure they had no

perception no feeling and no

consciousness at that time that is why

you're able to see the links of

dependent origination how they arise and

how they cease all of these are

conditions one thing conditions another

when it comes to the cessation when this

doesn't arise that won't arise when that

won't arise this one or right and you

come down to the formations and finally

you see the cessation of the Four Noble

Truths you see the cessation of

ignorance now there's no more conditions

you've seen all the conditions and you

let them go that's how your mind gets

into the pumpkin

you've let go of all of these concepts

and then you get to the place of no

concepts that is the unconditioned state

that is Nevada how work

now there's actually three paths that

you can take to attain me but first you

have to get to the 4th job that's the

start of it if your mind is very

intelligent but not particularly

sensitive to feeling then you go through

all of the our pajamas and the cessation

of perception and feeling and then

seeing dependent origination in the

bottom that's one way if your mind is it

can be intelligent but not particular

but very particularly sensitive to

feeling this is when psychic abilities

start happening and they happen by

themselves

but the last of the psychic abilities is

the cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness and then seeing dependent

origination and

but then the last way of attaining this

is by getting to the 4th jhana

remembering past lifetimes then

this is where you develop the divine

here in the divine I you start visiting

beings in other realms you see they're

passing away and arising from one won't

realm to another and you can talk to

them and you can find out what they've

been doing in their last few lifetimes

and why they're in this realm whether

it's a heavenly realm or brahmaloka or a

day belocca doesn't matter it can be a

hell realm it can be a hungry ghosts

realm it can be any of these realms what

happens is you start to see dependent

origination of rising in them and you

see how it works and then there is the

cessation of perception and dealing then

you actually see this and then you

attain nirvana

now the thing is of these three paths

the one that I call the fast track is

the way that the Buddha did was called

in poly is called tbj nidra as wisdom

teaches three this is the three wisdoms

so you're seeing past lives you're

seeing a rata passing away and rising of

beings and different realms in you're

seeing it dependent origination Endicott

that way

many monks practice that way during the

time

I prefer to teach going through all of

the jobs and going through the aruba

johns mostly because people in America

are incredibly intelligent

and it takes a good 5 to 10 years to

develop peace I haven't

spontaneous happening it takes a lot of

work to develop the skill to be able to

fly in the air or read other person's

mind walk through walls and things like

that dive into the earth

and you think that the up ray of the

western line has a lot to do with that

intellect

you know I i I've considered this a lot

and haven't really come up with an

answer yet we learn in a lot different

way than the Asians burn the Asians do

things for repetitious and that could

have a lot to do with their sensitivity

to feeling and also there they have very

much stronger family ties and that could

have something to do with their

sensitive to feelings you know I've seen

Asian families where the youngest son

was forty-five years old still living at

home and it wasn't because he was lazy

he was going out working all the time he

could live by himself but his family

wanted him close and he got married and

he took us his wife and moved into them

I mean she moved into the family too

that doesn't happen in America so much

we're taught to be more quote

independent and I think that might have

something to do with the lack of

sensitivity to I mean when you give with

a group of people and you live with them

on for a long period of time you can

each other's thinking right but in our

country what what we're encouraged to do

is when you get out of high school get

out of the house and then then you lose

that possibility of having that

sensitivity and that's kind of a problem

I suspect in the last two a lot has to

do with sensitive Questor enlightenment

with the rise of science and the whole

kind of objective thinking really

suppressed a lot of wise leaders in the

other way of thinking that's it was

poured out on the best up until about

1700s and still run out of cultures

the other ones

well you know what you think and ponder

on what we're taught to think and ponder

on is science and not spirituality and

not sensitivity we're not taught to have

that come up as much as it could yeah I

also think subcultures are more luck

worrying and others are more ripe berry

but that that comes from a variety of

different reasons and one of the biggest

one is the family and the small villages

without the flashing lights and loud

music and things of the city I mean when

I went out into Burma and I started

teaching meditation in Burma I was

completely shocked at how fast everybody

caught on I mean in a week or ten days

they were gay and it wasn't this kind of

meditation that I was teaching I was

teaching the casa de and they were

getting into in 10 days they were

getting into Sanka Rebecca equanimity

two formations and that's very deep in

10 days

you know not bad

but it wasn't just one person I mean

this was like at this one village I went

to there must have been 15 people that

took the retreat in 10 of them got to

that state it was amazing and having a

small village living in a small

community where you can share where you

can me where you're completely secure

that helps opening up the ability to get

into the other parts of the brain but

because we live where the way we do in

the and how we do with the electronic

age and if you have to wait for two

minutes for your computer to do

something you're pounding and say god

this is slow i wish you to hurry up but

somebody that lives on the farm they're

not doing that they just say okay yes

and then they'll sit there has been a

date for a minute or two it's no big

deal so it's all in the way that we

perceive and the way that we live

so after cessation apparently from the

description of the sea scene of the

bodily formations the in and out breath

the breath itself would cease for the

eris Luke I'm so it's done there's no

breathing for five or ten minutes and a

body that is experiencing sensation

breath goes through the years happen it

happens by itself the the actual thing

that happens is your heartbeat slows

down it doesn't completely stopped but

it slows down to like two or three a

minute oh so there's not enough of need

for oxygen at that time so it's almost a

nap close close you'll get to see that

in okay hold on boy let me just finish

my question so that it would follow that

when these formations realized that they

would arise in the reverse order in the

facies to see that just

okay lady when a monk is emerging from

the attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

which states arise in him first bodily

formation verbal formation or mental

formation friend visakha when a monk is

emerging from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness first the mental formation

arises then the bodily formation arises

then the verbal formation arises lady

when a monk has emerged from the

attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness how

many kinds of contact touch him bread

moussaka when a monk has emerged from

the attainment of the cessation of

perception feeling of dealing in

consciousness three kinds of contact

touch him voidness contact sign lyst

contact and desireless contact

that's what you experience while you're

in that cessation of perception feeling

and consciousness lady when a monk is

emerged from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness to what does his mind

inclined to what does it lead to what

does it tend friend hosaka when a monk

has emerged from the attainment of the

cessation of perception feeling in

consciousness his mind inclines to

seclusion leans to seclusion tends to

seclusion don't feel like did you feel

like sitting just being by yourself not

popping out say hey now you do today

that's what silence contact there are

you know what a sign is you don't know

what assignments inhibitor

but silence contact means that there is

no disturbance there is no signs and

features coming up in your in your mind

why because there's no perception

there's no feeling there's no

consciousness so there is no sign that's

why it's assignments okay and the was it

the link would what is what is the void

pneus it means that there is nothing

that arises at that time

it is void of everything that can

possibly arise

lady how many kinds of feeling are there

from the sakha there are three kinds of

feeling pleasant feeling painful feeling

and neither painful or pleasant feeling

but lady what is pleasant feeling what

is painful feeling what is neither

painful more pleasant feeling friend

bussaco whatever is felt bodily or

mentally as pleasure as pleasant and

soothing is pleasant feeling whatever is

felt bodily and mentally as painful and

hurting is a painful feeling whatever is

felt bodily or mentally as neither

soothing nor hurting is neither painful

nor pleasant feeling lady what is

pleasant and what is painful in regard

to pleasant feeling what is painful and

what is pleasant in regard to painful

feeling what is pleasant and what is

painful in regard to neither painful

more pleasant feelings friend this acha

pleasant feeling is pleasant when it

persists and painful when it changes

right

we've been sitting long enough to

recognize that as being true remember

painful feeling is painful when it

persists and pleasant when it changes is

that right neither painful more pleasant

feeling is pleasant when there is

knowledge of it and painful when there

is no knowledge of it okay so neither

either painful my pleasantest actually

pleasant

when you know that it's there and what

is that actually referring to its

referring to when you have neither

painful more pleasant feeling it is

pleasant when you have equanimity and

when you do not it is not blessed in

other words your mindfulness is is

caught up with indifference and it's

very weak so you don't really recognize

this and that in itself causes you to

get caught up in your thinking and your

your your whole situation with what

you're thinking about and that sort of

thing so it's boring an example of that

absolutely go through it

boredom is a great sign it is absolutely

one of the best signs that you can have

when you're meditating when you said go

through it explain 6rf allowed to be

who's bored but same with indifference

yes that's Matt that's Matt festive

tourism for them or can be I suppose it

can or not but boredom is is a great

sign I love to see it when people have

it

it's a sign of your development

it's a sign that you're working

and you're repeating something over and

over and over again and you're bored

with it who's bored

whose attack all you need to do is let

go that very simple thing six art and on

the other side of that is something good

okay

Jessica laughs at all you want to

so that in the same category as

disenchantment and a difference that's a

lesser category of it but it's getting

there that's it lady what underlying

tendency underlies pleasant feeling what

underlying tendency underlies painful

feelings

what underlying tendency underlies

neither painful nor pleasant feeling

friendly saka the underlying tendency to

lust underlies being a pleasant feeling

the underlying tendency to aversion

underlies painful feeling the underlying

tendency to ignorance underlies the

neither painful more pleasant feeling

lady does the underlying tendency to

lust underlie all pleasant feeling does

the underlying tendency to aversion

underlie all painful feeling does the

underlying tendency to ignorance

underlie all neither painful more

pleasant feeling Brenda Sokka the

underlying tendency to lust is not

underlie all paid pleasant feeling the

underlying to tendency the underlying

tendency to aversion does not underlie

all painful feeling the underlying

tendency to ignorance does not underlie

all neither painful more pleasant

feeling lady what should be abandoned in

regard to pleasant feeling what should

be abandoned in regard to painful

feeling what should be abandoned and

regard to neither painful more pleasant

feeling Brenda Sokka the underlying

tendency to lust should be abandoned in

regard to pleasant feeling so the

underlying tendency to lust means to be

let go of when there is a pleasant

feeling right

six are that pleasant feeling the

underlying tendency to aversion should

be abandoned in regard to painful

feeling how many people here do that

underlying tendency

the aversion of the painful feeling

Joe heads nobody some anyway the

underlying tendon its tendency to

ignorance should be abandoned in regard

to neither painful nor pleasant feeling

lady does the underlying tendency to

lust have to be abandoned in regard to I

just read that okay does the underlying

tendency to lust have to be abandoned in

regard to all pleasant feeling does the

underlying tendency to aversion have to

be abandoned in regard to all painful

feeling does the underlying tendency to

ignorance have to be abandoned in regard

to all neither painful more pleasant

feeling friends Osaka the underlying

tendency to lust does not have to be

abandoned in regard to all pleasant

feeling the underlying tendency to

aversion does not have to be abandoned

in regard to all painful feeling the

underlying tendency to ignorance does

not have to be abandoned in regard to

neither painful or pleasant feeling here

friend visakha quite secluded from

sensual pleasures secluded from

unwholesome states among enters upon an

abides in the first round which is

accompanied by thinking and examining

thought with joy and happiness born of

seclusion with that he abandons lust and

the underlying tendency to lust does not

underlie that

then that doesn't that statement right

there doesn't that say that you don't

become attached to Jonas doesn't it yeah

that was pretty good job with it here's

your argument right I remember that 128

suit too wordy war-era monk considers

thus when shall I enter upon and abide

in the base that the noble ones now

entering upon and abide in in one who

thus generates a longing for the supreme

liberation brief arises with that long

with that he abandons a version in the

underlying tendency to aversion and does

not underlie that here with the

abandoning of pleasure and pain with a

previous disappearance of joy and grief

amok enters upon and abides in the 4th

jhana which has neither pain nor

pleasure and purity of mindfulness duty

equanimity with that he abandons

ignorance and the underlying tendency to

a tendency to ignorance does not

underlie that by underlying by

abandoning ignorance what he's talking

about is developing equanimity

lady what is the counterpart of pleasant

feeling friend asanka painful feeling is

the counterpart of pleasant feeling what

is the counterpart of painful feeling

pleasant feeling is a counterpart of

painful feeling what is the counterpart

of neither painful more pleasant feeling

ignorance is the counterpart of neither

painful more pleasant feeling what is

the counterpart of ignorance true

knowledge is a counterpart of excuse me

ignorance what is the counterpart of

true knowledge deliverance is the

counterpart of true knowledge what is

the counterpart of deliverance Nibhana

is the counterpart of deliverance lady

what is the counterpart of Nibhana

friend moussaka you have pushed this

line of questioning too far

you were not able to grasp the limit to

the questions for the holy life friend

Vaisakhi merges in Nibhana culminates in

nevada and ends in the bottom if you

wish friend Busacca go to the blessed

one and ask him about the meaning of

this as the blessed one explains it to

you you should remember it then lady the

Leigh follower visakha having delighted

and rejoiced in New bhikkhuni da

Medina's words rose from his seat and

after paying homage to her keeping her

on the right he went to the blessed one

after paying homage to him he sat down

at one side and told the blessed one his

entire conversation with the Baku need a

medina when he fished finish speaking

the blue the blessed one told him the

Baku need a medina is wise the Baku

needa Medina has great wisdom if you had

asked me the meaning of this I would

have explained it to you in the same way

that the Baku need a medina has

explained it such is its meaning and so

you should remember it that is what the

Blessed ones that the way power of

Hassakeh was satisfied and delight

in the Blessed ones words the thing with

Baku need a medina which she was

foremost in expounding the dump of all

of the because he was really good one we

really understood it and she could say

it to you in a way that she'd understand

okay daddy questions we've been asking

questions all the time yeah that was

this waiting for the answer for this and

we're sitting show Coughlin when he said

the honor when she said the underlying

County where Las does not have to be

abandoned in regard to all puzzles right

getting into drama

ok so the joy that arises in the channel

not have to be a man but

so on it's all pervasive yeah that's

right this is one of the Enlightenment

factors

let's see if I can throw this out there

navona is unconditional and the bonnet

creek you can have navona become a soda

pop and become socketed Elmo on the

downy bird however it seems like it is

the lower ones until your air hot it is

not a fun conditioned state because

there is craving at certain points with

those certain feds know now while you're

in it it is unconditioned when you come

out of it because you haven't you

haven't gone deep enough when you come

out of it those conditions and the right

so it's that state accessible once

you've before East sort of on a second

egami time ago it's what state navona

decision can't obtain it if you don't

but can they repeatedly accessible

easily only the Nibhana is only

experienced twice by each of those

states ok it's only experienced twice

they can get into the cessation of

perception and dealing if you are on

agami for an are hot many times but you

will not

you will not see dependent origination

which you cannot know

so why do it really

you think you have relief now with a

little bit of stillness of my think

about students being able to sit for

seven days without having your mind move

without even having consciousness

I'll check

and don't not while you're in that state

you have to make a determination to come

out of that state

in another suit

okay we start talking about the by

faculties this is the suitor right

before this suit 243 we're going to

section 21 the PI bakal t friend these

five faculties each have a separate

field a separate domain and do not

experience each other's field and domain

that is the I faculty year faculty nose

faculty tug faculty and body faculty now

these five faculties each have a

separate field a separate domain not

experiencing each other's field or

domain what is it talking about you know

here through your eyes you don't smell

through your through your ears they each

have their own their own realm each of

these by faculties what is their resort

what experience is their field and

domains friend these five faculties each

have a separate field as separate domain

and do not experience each other's field

and though

that is the I faculty year faculty those

faculty ton faculty and Biden faculty

now these five faculties each have a

separate field and a separate domain not

experiencing each other's build and

don't mean they have mine as their

resort and mind experiences their fields

and domains okay

friend as to these five faculties that

is the eye ear nose tongue body faculty

what do these five faculty stand in

dependence on friend as to these five

faculties that is the eye ear nose

tongue and body faculties by faculty

stand in dependence on vitality okay

Fred what does vitality stand in

dependence on vitality stands in

dependence on heat friend what does heat

stand in dependence on your gonna love

this answer he stands in dependence on

vitality just now friend we understood

the venerable sorry booted to have said

vitality stands and dependence on heat

and now we understand him to say he

stands in dependence on vitality how

should the meaning of this statement be

regarded think it's a good question in

that case friend I shall give you

assembly for some wise men here

understand the meaning of a statement by

means of assembly just as when an oil

lamp is burning its radiance is seen in

dependence on its flame and its flame is

seen in dependence on its radiance

one without the other right here

dependent on each other

so to vitality stands and dependence on

heat and heat stands in dependence on

vitality ok friends are vital formation

states of feeling or are vital

formations one thing in states of

feeling another vital formations friend

is not our vital formations friend are

not states of feeling if bio formations

were states of healing then when a monk

has entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness he

would not be seen to emerge from it ok

because vital formations are one thing

and states of feeling another when a

monk is entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

here he can be seen to emerge from it

friend when this body is to be reaped of

how many states is it then discarded

forsaken left lying senseless like a log

friend when this body is bereaved of

three states vitality heat and

consciousness it is then discarded and

forsaken left senseless like like a love

that means dying friend what is the

difference between one who is dead and

one who has completed his time in a monk

who has entered upon the cessation of

perception feeling and consciousness

friend in the case of one who is dead

who has completed his time his bodily

formation subsea stand subsided his

verbal formations have ceased and

subsided his mental formations have

ceased and subsided his vitality is

exhausted his heat has been dissipated

and his faculties are fully broken up in

the case of a monk who has entered upon

the cessation of perception and feeling

and consciousness his bodily formations

have seized and subsided his verbal

formations have ceased and subsided his

mental formations have ceased and

subsided but his

eyetality is not exhausted his heat has

not been dissipated and his faculties

become exceptionally clear this is the

difference between one who is dead and

one who and who has completed his time

and a monk who is entered upon the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness so when yours when you're

in the cessation of perception feeling

and and consciousness you still have the

heat in your body and you still have

vitality in your body that will last for

seven days at the most

now getting out of that state you have

to make a determination before you go

into that state that means when you are

on agami all right I've talked to some

of you a little bit about learning how

to develop mastery of going in and out

of the Javas this is learning how to

develop your determinations so when you

get to be an auto gommi and you make a

determination it will happen the way you

want so you make a determination well

I've got six and a half days and then I

have to do something so you make the

determination to go in and out of the

cessation of perception feeling and

consciousness for six days 12 hours and

27 seconds and then you go into that and

because of that determination you will

come out at exactly that to the second

you