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Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.

there's a headband of the village and

then there's a hit man of the bunch of

villages and then ahead man of the whole

area and they still they still are like

them so if you have any problem

you go see one head man after another

and get to try to get the problem solved

and they're they're real helpful that

way and there

more popular the headmen is the letter e

as it's all ding dings so this is this

is what trunki was he was like a head

man of a big building a big area so this

is the cha Chi su tonight 95 the Brahmin

householders a post-op asada heard the

Rekluse Gautama the son of this Hawkins

who went forth from the sake and plan

has been wandering in the country of the

diet with a large saga of monks with 500

months he couldn't go to the bathroom

with you dip he didn't have 500 months

behind he always everywhere he went he

had 500 bucks now good report of the

master Gautama has been spread to this

effect the blessed one is accomplished

fully enlightened perfect and true

knowledge and conduct think about that

too

perfect

who is the Politis racist the wisest

sublime nor world and comparable persons

leader of persons to detain teacher of

gods and yunnan enlightened and blessed

he declares this world's with its gods

its Mara's and his promise this

generation with the recluses and

brahmins with his princess and its

people which he has himself realized

with direct knowledge he teaches the

Dhamma good in the beginning good in the

middle and good in the end with the

right meaning and freezing he reveals a

holy life that is utterly pure now it is

good to see such our hearts I would

think so looking that kind of a buildup

you know yeah that sounds like somebody

then the Brahmin householder of OPA sada

set forth from opa sada in groups and

bands and headed northwards to the gods

grove the solitary drove the Sala tree

is really a beautiful tree it has leaves

that are smaller than maple tree but

they're really like perfect little

little needs and when it flowers it has

white flowers that are just not your

eyes off you Japanese are real big on

their cherry blossoms I think the salad

is better and it has been has very nice

scent it's not

you go buy orange trees when they're

flowering and they have a very nice

scent for a little while and then it's

too heavy the solid tree isn't like that

is always night very now on that

occasion the Brahmin chowki had retired

to the upper story of this palace for

his new day rest then he saw the Brahmin

householders of 0 Posada setting forth

from 0 Posada and groups and bands and

heading northward to the gods grilled

the solitary goal when he saw them he

asked his minister good Minister why are

the brahmin householders of Oh Posada

setting forth from opus out in groups

and bands and heading northward to the

gods drove the solitary growth sir there

is the Rekluse go to mow the son of the

sake ins who went forth from the sake

and plan who has been wandering in the

closed island country and it goes

through what i just read and the other

chapters that it says they are going to

see master go to

then good miss the good then good

Minister go to the Brahmin householders

of 0 Posada and tell them serves the

Brahmin chomping says this please wait

serves the Brahmin chunky will also go

to see the master go to know yes sir the

minister and replied and went to the

Brahmin householders of oppa sada and

gave them the message now on that

occasion 500 brahmanas from various

states we're staying at Oak asada for

some business or ever they heard the

brown and chunky it is said is going to

see the Rekluse go to know then they

went to the Brahman chunky and ask em

sers is it good that you're going to see

the Rekluse Gautama it is so serves I'm

going to see the Rekluse goats of surf

do not go see the Rekluse go to mount it

is not proper master comfy for you to go

see the Rekluse Gautama rather it is

proper for the Rekluse goats about to

come see you

for sir you are well born on both sides

that needs his mother and father of pure

maternal and paternal descent seven

generations back that means for seven

generations this family has been

promised unassailable an impeccable and

respective birth since that is so master

chalky it is not proper for you to go

see the Rekluse Gautama rather it is

proper for the Rekluse go to not to come

see you you sir are rich with great

wealth and great possessions you sir are

a master of the three Vedas with their

vocabularies liturgy phonology etymology

and the histories as the fifth skilled

in ecology and grammar you are fully

versed in the natural philosophy and

Anna marks of a great man you sir are

handsome comely and graceful possessing

supreme beauty of complexion with

sublime beauty and sublime presence

remarkable to behold you sir are

virtuous a tour in virtue possessing the

tour virtue you sir are a good speaker

with good delivery you speak words that

are courteous distinct flawless and

communicate

you sir teach the teachers of many and

you teach the recitation of the hymns to

the 300 Brahman students you sir are

honored respected revered venerated and

esteemed by king pasenadi of Misawa you

sir are honored respected revered

venerated in esteem by the brahman polka

heart Hara Hara sake user rule over

Posada a crown property to bounding and

living beings a sacred grant given to

you by king pasenadi touka-sama since

this is so faster kultana it is not

proper for you to go see the recluse

book Gautama rather it is proper for the

Rekluse Gautama come see you

there's a story I can't remember the man

but the name of the person

from the time view was born he never had

to touch the ground

it was carried everywhere he looked and

he was so delicate that he actually had

cared growing out of the bottom of his

feet

and he became very famous because of

that we may always have people around

doing and it was just a very talented

person and he would get invited places

and he would have to sit so that they

could see the bottom of the hair on the

bottom speak he went to hear the Buddha

and he became real enthusiastic and he

wanted to become a month now the monks

they walked around the countryside

without anything on the bottom of their

feet they walked barefoot

and he knew this but he still wanted to

be coming up

so he became a monk and he went to this

one place and he got his own little who

he and he started doing his practice of

meditation and he would alter me walking

him city but his feet were so tender

that if they started me because he was

walking

wraps and that sort of thing

and his walking area started to smell

like a slaughtered yard

and the Buddha happened to walk by his

area and said what is this why is this

happening somebody's an odd it's nothing

it's just this month he is very tender

very delicate and he when he wants

his feet are so delicate that causes

blood

because of this one

we are now allowed have samples

he did us a great turn

and soon after that he was able to walk

without pain in his feet and he became

Inara

so that gives you an idea of how tender

some of these people are that were and

pampered some of these rich indian

princess work

there there was an aruba i think it was

in Aruba

he saw a Buddha in one lifetime and he

gave him a meal and with that meal he

made a determination that he would never

hear I don't have so during the time of

the Buddha he was reborn this Buddha and

he was reborn and as he was growing up

he had a bunch of friends that he was

playing with and it is gambit and what

he was gambling was cakes so he lost so

he said to his mother and said please

send me some cakes so she's up any lost

some more and he said to his mother and

said please send me some cakes and she

sent him only college she got the next

time he lost some more please send me

some case I don't have any case she sent

back an empty date now because this

determination was so strong the Davis

put heavenly cake into this everything

and when they got the cakes they started

eating it and oh it was like the best

smell you've ever run across and it

tingled all of the sense buds in your

tongue and now oh this is the greatest

game ever and he got upset and he went

to his mother and said you don't love me

and she said why do you say that well

you've never given me these I don't have

cakes before and those are the best so

you don't love me because you never gave

me the best so from there and then on

any time he wanted some cake she said I

don't have and he got it celestial cakes

and he got into a discussion with his

friends and he said where does food come

from

and aniruddha said food comes from a

gold bowl because he always seen it in a

gold bowl he never went out he was

always in this area of playing around

and doing whatever and there was this

discussion of where the food came from

and all of these young prince's didn't

know where food came from they didn't

know you had to till the soil and you

had to do all of these things and

finally went to his older brother I

think his older brother was Mahama and

asked where food came from so his older

brother took him out to the fields and

showed him all the things that needed to

be done in it freaked him out and he

said that's way too much work

I don't something like I heard the

Buddha gave a talk not too long ago I

don't want to become up

and he and his younger brother he came

my brother was a number

and he was

for most

in the divine I in the second to the

Buddha in the divine I you can see a

thousand world systems just like you

stand on a hill that you can see a

village over there and you point your

mind towards that village it's like

you're walking around with it you know

there's another one

he could do that with world systems

anyway that gives you an idea of the

truly protected lifestyle

ok

so because he was he was so protected

the Brahmins didn't want him going out

and seeing labuda they wanted to luda to

come see him because he was so happy and

it looked bad for the brahmanas when

this was said the Brahmin chalky told

the Brahmins now sirs hear from me why

it is proper for me to go to the master

go to LA and why it is not proper for

master Gautama to come see me sir the

Rekluse Gautama is Wellborn on both

sides of pure maternal and paternal he

sent seven generations back he was born

in the warrior class it was not a

problem but that's still considered real

hot the Brahmins most of them are the

truly educated but quite a few of the

warrior class who's very highly

they were educated more in mathematics

they were more like the the CEOs of

businesses and things like that

since this is so it is not proper for

master Gautama to come see me it is

wrath rather it is proper for me to see

master Gautama sirs the Rekluse Gautama

went forth abandoning much gold in

bullion stored away in vaults and

depositories cerner the ritas Gautama

went forth from the home life into the

homeless while still young a black

haired young man endowed with the

blessings of youth in the prime of his

life the Brahmans what they do is they

they get married they have their

children than when they get to be 60

then they become reclusive they leave

their family they've taken care of

everything who needed to be taken care

of and now they can so to have somebody

this young to become an ascetic and be

as wealthy as he was and all of these

and this really highly unusual certain

the replays Gautama shaved off his hair

and beard and put on the yellow robe and

went forth from the whole lot home life

into the homelessness otherwise and wept

with the tearful faces sorry the repos

go to us add some company graceful

possessing supreme beauty of complexion

with sobriety blind beauty and sublime

presence remarkable to behold sir

Doritos Gautama is virtuous with noble

virtue with wholesome virtue possessing

wholesome virtually serves the ritas

Gautama is a good speaker with good

delivery he speaks words that are

courteous distinct flawless and

communicate the meaning serves the

ruthless Gautama as a teacher of the

teachers of many serves the riches

Gautama is free from sensual lust and

without personal vanity serves the retos

goten all holds the doctrine of the

moral FC of action the doctor of the

moral apathy of bees he does not seek

any harm for the line of Brahmans sir

the ritas Gautama went forth from an

aristocratic family one of the original

noble families sir the ritas go Tamela

went forth from a rich family from a

family of great wealth and great

possessions

serves people come from remote kingdoms

in remote districts to question their

equals go to them serves many thousands

of deities have gone for refuge for life

to the Rekluse Gautama serves a good

report of the Rekluse Gautama has been

spread to this effect that the Blessed

One is accomplished boolean like perfect

and true knowledge and condom sublime

nor of worlds incomparable leader of

persons to be pain persons of gods and

teacher of gods and humans enlightened

and blessed sirs the recos Gautama

possesses the 32 marks of a great man

sirs King singha bimbisara of Magadha

and his wife and family have gone for

refuge for life to the Rekluse Gautama

serves king pasenadi of pasala and his

wife and children have gone for refuge

for life to the Rekluse go to them now

king bimbisara was the king of very

large region Oh m'god aha and actually

speaking

the language that the Buddhist both is

Martha

but we call it Polly I don't know how

I've got this term

but he spoke in common language that was

the most common dialect for that area

that he spent most of his time it he

chose not to speak Sanskrit because too

many people wouldn't understand it the

common farmers and merchants and that

sort of thing they didn't speak Sanskrit

they went to the Brahmins to find out

what the Sanskrit been so by teeth by

talking directly to the common people

and using a language that they could

really understand this is one of the

reasons that Buddhism became so popular

and that's kind of what I'm trying to do

in this country not use language that

isn't familiar very use simple language

so that you can understand didn't the

Buddha or minus they can say something

about that for the Dhamma to flourish

yes

he encouraged that we look into other

religions so that we can be able to talk

intelligently but to use as as common

language as we can but the thing that

happens it happens in Thailand it

happens in Burma they get very well

educated they have they memorized huge

quantities of things and because of the

language in the suta that they memorize

that's the language that they use and

then it has to be translated and they

use to hio language for the common

people to really understand

and that's one of the reasons why the

Buddhism in Asian countries is not

flourishing as much as it can another

reason is

material possessions are getting easier

and easier to get and people are

starting to get greedy and that's not

what Buddhism is about some people are

starting to leave that more important

sirs the Rekluse gautama has arrived at

OPA sada and as living at 0 Posada in

the gods Grove the solitary growth to

the north of Oak asada now any recluses

or brahmins that come to our town are

our guest and guest should be honored

respected revered and venerated violence

says the recos Gautama has arrived at 0

Posada he is our guest and as our judge

should be honored respected revered and

venerate advice since this is so it is

not proper for master Gautama to come

see me rather it is proper for me to

conceive as per go to sirs so much is

the praise of master Gautama that I have

learned but the praise of master Gautama

is not limited to that for the praise of

master Gautama is immeasurable since

master Gautama possesses each of each

one of these factors it is not proper

for me to come see you rather it is it

is not proper for him to come see me

rather is proper for me to come see

master go to the

therefore sirs let all of us go to see

the master Gautama when the brahman

chunky together with a large company of

Brahmans went to the Blessed One and

exchange greetings with him when this

courteous and amiable talk was finished

he sat down at one site oh and other

suit does it talks about large groups of

people coming to see master go to mind

some of them would make a big show

bowing to him and saying things to him

as your health is there anything I can

help you sort of others would come in

and they didn't bow they put their hands

together and about their head they

didn't get down on the ground and they

would say their family knee and then

talk very little with him and then go on

some people would just come in and they

would put their hands together and say

their family name and go on other people

would come in and just say their family

names that go sit down the idea of

having to bow

is very cultural

the idea of paying respect it's not yes

so when we do no ceremonies in United

States this the prostration and

everything I mean should we be doing

that or should we be you know fold our

house you do yeah it's good for these

kind of the kind of ceremonies like

maybe they have like ceremonies yeah uh

yes it's good to bow but not overdo it

now there's some people it's a sit well

you have to bow and then when you put

your hands down you have to open your

hands like no you bow you touch your

elbow and your wrist nature down all the

way what's more important than the

actual bowing is what are you doing with

your mind while you're doing that are

you radiating loving-kindness are you

radiating respect that's the important

aspect of the bowing the bowing is just

an external show

what are you doing with your right when

I first became a monk in Thailand I've

gone gone from these different teachers

and I was radiating loving kindness to

them and they would always stop me and

say very good because they could feel

the loving kindness that I was sending

them and it was sincere it was real so

that's what we have to learn in this

country is we have developed a certain

kind of pride that I'm equal to

everybody else but there are times that

we need to show respect for other people

and it is in your mind

now on that occasion the blessed one was

seated finish and finishing some amiable

talk with some very senior Brahmins at

that time sitting in the assembly was a

Brahmin student named kapot Lika young

shaven head 16 years old he was a master

of the three Vedas with the vocabularies

liturgy phonology etymology and his

presence of it skilled in philology in

grammar he was well versed in the

natural philosophy and then marks of a

great men somebody that's that young to

have that kind of mind that they could

memorize all of this stuff because

that's how they did things back then

they did out written language they

didn't use it very much

he wanted to know something you

memorized

I have another suit different

image this one

I get to listen to it

so

for a 16 year old to be able to do that

is quite remarkable he had a very

remarkable night now when i was in Burma

I was staying at this monastery the Kami

Gaeta Gaeta means meditation center ka

is very flowery

wishing well

and we had this on madera that was 9

years

soul and he had just a brilliant but he

could remember things off just

unbelievable so the teacher gave him the

first book of avi dominance memorized

and he did and he took a test on it and

he passed higher than all the other

older boys he didn't nobody has

memorized but he memorized brilliant

Mike but after I left Burma I found out

that he took off the robes because he

was very attached to his daughter and he

wanted to be with his

but to have a mind

truly remarkable so this the 16 year old

is pretty remarkable so it makes it seem

like a prodigy yeah yeah prodigy that

would be a good word for it

well the very senior Brahmins were

conversing with a blessed one he broke

in and interrupted their talk then the

blessed one rebuked the Brahmins student

thus let not the venerable student break

in and interrupt the talk of the very

senior Brahmins while they're conversing

let the then the venerable student wait

until the talk has been it this is very

much show of respect not to break in

when especially senior monks get

together dude your mouth sitting back

they don't think I'm blessing your mouth

turns and says something directly

that is a very strong show of respect

what

what generally happens if the group of

monks come to see a particular month the

senior of that group is the one that

talks to them and while i was in Burma

happened to be the senior motor for some

reason I don't know how that sort of had

happened so why we would go visit like

there there was a month that he was

quite remarkable for 50 years he

practiced loving-kindness meditation you

walk in the room you knew he was

radiating a lot of kindness I mean you'd

it's new it it was such a strong monk

that whenever he did it he chanted they

put a bowl of water right in front of

him and the water acted like it was

boiling who would be bubbling and then

he would give the water to whoever

wanted it

special water all kinds of claims happen

because of that I I don't like that sort

of thing but it happens we have to

accept it but because i was the senior

monk I got to talk with him for a little

while and oh this is great fun and he

made sure that he gave me there was six

months that that were there and he gave

me six ropes so that I could give them

to all of the other and just a special

talk

I mean when we all walk out of this room

we were always my good it just creates

grateful

so

and the the show of respect was always

very a very necessary part of Buddhism

that a junior monk never breaks into

winter scene your mouth is saying

something never interrupt oh no I don't

believe no you don't do that you never

point your finger at it trying to make a

point

you need to have very polite behavior

because monks are very polite people and

you want to show respect to that

be polite with them

and give respect to the years of there

being months it's not all cake cake and

candy being month let me tell you

but

it is worthwhile

anyway

when this was said the Brahman chunky

said to the blessed one let not master

go to my raiment the rebuke the Brahman

student the Brahmans student is a

Klansman he's very learning he has good

delivery he's wise he's capable of

taking part in the discussion with

master go to him now chunky because he

was a ruler of that area knew all of

these people that had special gifts and

that's why he spoke up to the to the

Buddha because he was the most respected

one in that area it was his job to talk

to the Buddha letting look

then the blessed one thought surely sets

the Brahmins honor him thus the Brahman

student must be accomplished in the

scriptures of the three Vedas when the

Brahmins student thought when the

Rekluse Gautama catches my eye I shall

ask him a question one of the things

that happens with months is they have a

tendency to know when you have these

kind of thoughts and they will ya okay

you have a question they'll do that then

knowing with his own mind the thought of

the Brahmin student the Blessed One

turned his eye towards him when the

Brahmins student thought the reckless

Gautam I has turned towards me suppose I

asked him a question then he said to the

blessed one master Gautama in regard to

the ancient romantic hymns that have

come down through oral tradition and in

scriptural purple collections the

Brahmins come to the definite conclusion

only this is true anything else is wrong

what does the master Gautama say about

this

how them student among the Brahmins is

there even a single Brahmin who says I

know this I see this only this is true

and everything else is wrong well no

master Gautama how then stood among the

Brahmins is there even a single teacher

or single teachers teachers back to the

seventh generation of teachers who says

I know this I see this only this is true

anything else is wrong no master Gautama

how then stood the ancient Brahmin Sears

the creators of the hymns the composers

of the hymns whose ancient hymns that

were formerly chanted utter and compiled

the Brahmins nowadays still chant and

repeat repeating that was spoken than

reciting what was recited and then he

goes through a bunch of names that I'm

not going to

those are hard to pronounce for me did

even these ancient Brahmin sears saved

us we know this we see this only this is

true everything else is wrong no master

note tonight so student it seems that

among the brahmanas there's not even a

single Brahmin who says I know this I

see this and only this is true

everything else is wrong and among the

Brahmins there's not even a single

teacher or a single teachers teacher

back to the seventh generation of

teachers who says thus I notice I see

this only this is true everything else

is wrong and the ancient Brahmin Sears

the creators of the hymns the composers

of the hills even these ancient brahman

Sears do not say thus we know this we

see this only this is true and

everything else is wrong suppose there

were a file of blind men each touch with

the note with the next the first does

not see the middle does not see in the

last does not see so to student in

regard to their statement the Brahmin

seemed to be like a file of blind men

the first does not see the middle one

does not see and the last does not see

what do you think student that being so

does the faith of the Brahmin turn out

to be groundless

interesting thing here is when we have

the suit does we don't blindly believe

the suitcase just because it's written

in a book we don't take it to mean that

it's all going to be under present very

true our direct experience we can see

whether it is true or not and whether

what you're practicing is right and what

suta says might not be right and it's

okay to say this part of the suta is

misleading it does not lead to the end

result that the Buddha is teaching

it's okay because of your direct

experience what I'm talking about is

suit to number 20 in the mag- kiya there

is some sections there that are

definitely misleading and going away

from what the Buddha taught it is not

only correct but it is proper for me to

bring this up for you part of the suta

it says that when a hindrance arises and

you can't get rid of it it won't go away

then you take your tongue and press it

against the roof of your mouth and you

fresh mind with mine the Buddha did not

teach that that was taken from another

suit where the Buddha said if you

practice this way it doesn't work but

some monks later just took that part and

said well we're goes along with our one

pointed concentration so we're going to

put that in the suit

I have practiced one

good concentration virtually

I have practice tranquility meditation

for 15 years I know and I see the

difference

and it is okay for me to say this part

of the suit does not agree with the

village teacher it is not right

another interesting part of that is that

it stands alone it's not surrounded by

supports that 36 is surrounded by

supporting information it matches and

supports it but 20 stands alone which is

really really unusual for something

that's strong to be standing there and

not have others such as the whole point

comes down to yes it stands alone and

yes the other suitors will agree with

what I'm saying but it is the direct

experience of trying to do that and

seeing the end result and going that

doesn't seem right who is trying to push

their tongue against the roof of their

mouth and make fresh pine with mine who

is doing that who doesn't like that

Hendricks who wants that entrance to

disappear and it always comes back to me

it comes back to my its I don't want

that

I have to control that I am seeing this

as concept and taking it personal

so it's very important

to not blindly believe anything but when

your direct experience is such that you

see for yourself

that is when

you can believe what is written in

does come back to your director

from it the Brahmins honor not only out

of faith master Gautama they also honor

it as oral tradition student first you

took the stand on faith now you take a

stand on oral tradition there are five

things student that may turn out in two

different ways here and now what five

faith approval oral tradition reason

cognate cogitation and reflective

acceptance of a view it can either be

one I mean I could come out in two ways

you can either be a positive thing or

negative things you have to be careful

with these five things may turn out in

two different ways here and now now

something may be fully accepted out of

faith yet it might be empty hollow and

false but something else bade may not be

fully accepted out of faith yet it might

be factual true in an unmistakable again

something may be fully approved of maybe

well cogitated may be well reflected

upon yet it might be empty hollow and

false but something else might not be

well reflected upon yet it might be

cool true and unmistakable it is not

proper for a wise man who preserves

truth to come to the definite conclusion

only this is true anything else

but master Gautama and what way is there

the preservation of truth how is one how

does one preserve truth we asked master

Gautama about the preservation of truth

if a person has faith student he

preserves the truth when he says my

faith is us is my faith is Gus

but he does not come to the definite

conclusion only this is true anything

else is wrong what happens in this

country my faith is true and you're

wrong if you don't believe my faith in

this way student there is the

preservation of truth in this way he

preserves truth in this way he describes

the preservation of truth but as yet

there's no discovery of truth so just by

saying my faith is thus you can't come

to the definite conclusion only this is

true you have to investigate if a person

approves of something if he resides an

oral tradition if he reaches a

conclusion based on reason cogitation if

he gains a reflective acceptance of a

view he preserves the truth when he says

my reflective accept acceptance of this

view art

my reflective acceptance of a view is

thus but he does not come to the

definite conclusion only this is true

and anything else is wrong in this way

to student there is the preservation of

truth in this way he preserves truth in

this way he describes the preservation

of truth but as yet there is no

discovery of truth in that way master

Gautama there is the preservation of

truth in that way one preserves the

truth in that way we recognize a

preservation of proof but in what way

master Gautama is there the discovery of

proof in what way does one discover

truth we ask master go to know about the

discovery of truth here student a monk

may be living in dependence on some

village or town when a householder or a

householder son goes to him and

investigates in regards to three kinds

of states in regards to states based on

greed in regards to states based on hate

in regards to state based on delusion

are there in this vendor

any states based on grades such that

with his mind obsessed by those dates

while not knowing he may say I know or

while not seeing he may say I see or he

might urge others to act in a way that

would lead them to their arm and

suffering for a long time as he

investigates he comes to know there are

no such things based on greed in this

venerable one the bodily behavior in a

verbal behavior of this venerable one

are not those of one affected by greed

and the Dhamma that this venerable one

teaches is profound hard to see and hard

to understand peaceful and sublime

unattainable by mere reasoning and

subtle to be experienced by the wives

the Dhamma cannot easily be taught by

one affected by dream

an example of something that happened in

Thailand there's a particular teacher

that he developed this system of crystal

ball with the gold Buddha inside holding

a crystal ball with gold Buddha inside

holding a crystal ball and he became

very popular because people could do

this meditation he died and the guy that

took over his monastery his way of

teaching wanted to build this huge

facility where a hundred thousand people

who come and they could sit under a roof

so they wouldn't get wet at that rained

and it was huge about some money

was collected and the way he collected

it was by telling people that they were

going to if they donated all their money

to him right now they were going to be

reborn in the day belocca and they would

be super-rich and they believed it and

he has built this thing I mean it's

really fantastic he's got marble floors

oh just all kinds of things remarkable

and he's quite heavily criticized

because of his

it's greed of wanting something to

happen that he turned into his own

personal legacy instead of the legacy of

the truth

inning

when he has investigated him has seemed

that he is purified from States based on

greed he next investigate Simmons in

regard to states based on hate are there

in this venerable one and his states

based on eight such that with his mind

obsessed by those states he might hurt

others to act in a way that would lead

them to their harm and suffering for a

long time as he investigates him he

comes to know there's no such dates

based on eight in this venerable one the

bodily behavior in a verbal behavior of

this venerable one are not those of one

affected by hate and the Dhamma that

this venerable one teaches is profound

to be experienced by the wives this

Dhamma cannot easily be taught by one

affected by eight when he has

investigated him and seen that he is

purified from those states based on

eight he next investigates him based on

delusion that's delusion

you told me this before you

taking things personally

oh yeah

that's crazy do that but it all comes

down to because we think in concepts we

take these concepts to be ours and then

you get wrapped up in either liking or

disliking whatever arises and as we

start to learn a whole point is that we

take everything that arises in our mind

so personally

and we think in such concepts all the

time that we don't see the true nature

of everything is that it arises and ass

it's not it's not your

when you see that there is a very

intriguing aspect of the Dhamma that

happens

desire to control becomes less and less

because we're seeing it's true

it just came up as thoughts and these

ideas they just came up by themselves

and as you stop feeding the thoughts and

I did by feeding them I mean taking them

as yours and trying to control them as

you stop beating these and making them

stronger they will get weaker and

eventually they won't even arise and

causing problems eventually this is a

gradual practice

so it's not going to happen overnight

and sometimes for some people it does

when you start realizing that sometimes

a feeling like there was a I was giving

a talk and this lady that set up the top

was listening and all of a sudden she

got a panicked when she got a panic

attack he was telling me after the talk

generally it took her two or three days

to overcome this panic

but as she was sitting there she didn't

want to get up and run out of the room

and be by herself because she thought

that would be very rude so she'd SAT

there and she started thinking well this

month is telling me that all I have to

do is practice my six ours and this

feeling will go away by itself and she

did it and in about two minutes the

panic disappeared and her mind became

very clear and very bright and very

alert now her habitual tendency when

this kind of feeling arose was to take

it personally and try to control it with

her thoughts and it didn't work it made

the feeling bigger and more intense

until after a couple days she kind of

forgot about it because it's boring for

your mind to stay on the same thing for

too long and then she would recover but

this time

after two minutes of six earning it

allowing the space for it to be there

but not eating into it it went away by

itself she let go of the delusion she

let go of that belief that that feeling

was hurt and it was a major lesson that

she had during a dominant so

when he is and has investigated him and

has seen his purified from states based

on he he next investigates in regards to

states based on delusion are there in

this month per venerable one any states

based on delusion that's with his mind

obsessed in those states he might urge

others to act in a way that would lead

to their harm and suffering for a long

time as he investigates that he comes to

know there are no States based on

delusions venerable one the bodily

behavior the verbal behavior of this

venerable one are not those of one

affected by delusion and the Dhamma that

this venerable one teaches is profound

to be experienced by the wise this

Dhamma cannot easily be taught by one

affected by delusion

when he has investigated him and has

seen that he is purified from states

based on delusion then he places faith

in him filled with things he visits him

and pays respect to him having paid

respect to him he gives ear when he

gives ear he hears the Dhamma having

heard the Dhamma he memorizes it and

examines the meaning of the teachings he

has memorized when he examines the

meaning he gains a reflective acceptance

of those teachings when he has gained

reflective acceptance of those teachings

enthusiasm springs up when enthusiasm

has sprung up he applies his will having

applied his will he scrutinizes applies

his will means that he has the choice of

whether to get involved with these

things that arise or not it's your

choice you can

get into your old habits getting

involved fighting with it making

yourself suffer more and more or not

the Buddha offers us a way to change and

let go of the supper

this is very major difference and you

don't blank me believe anything you

don't blindly believe anything even if

the Buddha said it check it out for

yourself see whether it works if it

works then do it if it leads to your

happiness and the happiness of others

around

so

and you scrutinize you I mean you keep

looking to see whether it's right man

and you strive you strive striving has

four parts seeing the unwholesome

recognizing it letting go the

unwholesome and relaxing bringing up the

wholesome smiling your object of

meditation staying with your object of

meditation or hearts describing also we

call it the six arms

resolutely striving he realizes with the

body the ultimate truth he sees it by

penetrating with the wisdom what is

penetrating with wisdom seeing how the

process works seeing dependent

origination in this way student there is

the discovery of truth it all comes back

to you it's not the Buddha it's not me

it all comes back to you and the way

you're practicing and the way you're

looking as closely as you can

in this way student there is the

discovery of truth in this way one

discovers truth in this way we describe

the discovery of truth but as yet there

is no final arrival of truth in that way

master Gautama there is the discovery of

truth in that way one discovers truth in

that way we recognize the discovery of

truth but in what way master Gautama is

there the final arrival at true good

question

in what way does one finally arrived at

proof we asked master Gautama about the

final arrival at true the final arrival

at truth student lies in the repetition

development and cultivation of those

same things in this way student there is

the final arrival at truth in this way

one finally arrives at truth in this way

we describe the final arrival and fruit

what are you doing

invitation

practicing the six hours over it'll

and over a repetition

you start to go deeper

your meditation

you're developing your understanding of

how the process works

and you're cultivating

that is

how you arrived at true

that's the final rival that true

repetition why do we have to do so much

repetition because we're slow learners

I'm proud of it I have to work for the

things that I that I understand it

didn't come easy I've been doing this

stuff for years but finally there comes

a time that you do it so much over and

over again and your mind goes oh look at

that I never saw that before of course

you've seen it I've thousands and

thousands of times and that's why it's

always so funny when people are

practicing meditation with you they'll

hear me say relax practice your six ours

over and over again and they go yeah

yeah yeah yeah and then they finally do

it and it works and they'll come to me

all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and

they'll say you know I've always heard

you say this over and over again I

always believed it and I always did it

but now I understand

and they go off and they're like real

happy for a little while and then they

hear me say thanks hope for it over

again and then it will happen again

they'll understand it come to me and

they say I understood what you were

talking about but now I really

understand it it's comical because I'm

saying the same thing over and over

again that the repetitions need

and it's an important part of the

meditation

in this way student there is the final

arrival to treat in this way one finally

arrives at three in this way we describe

the final rival that fruit in that way

master go to know there is the final

arrival recruit in that way one finally

arrives the truth in that way we

recognize the final rival it through but

what master Gautama is most helpful for

the final rival it true we ask master go

to know about the thing most helpful for

the final arrival with true striving is

most helpful for the final arrival at

truth student if one does not strive one

will not finally arrived at truth but

because one strives one does finally

arrived at truth that is why striving is

most helpful for the final round

the truth what is driving these told you

six arms

but master go to

what is most helpful for striving we

asked master Gautama the thing most

helpful for striving scrutiny is most

helpful for striving student if one does

not scrutinize one will not strive but

because one scrutinizes one strives that

is why scrutiny is most helpful for

striving seeing how the process works

looking see how your mind gets

distracted I mean I was sitting there

and I was happy and everything was going

along great and all of a sudden I'm in

the mood how did that happen that's the

question why we don't care about what

why just leads to more questions that

you can't answer but how did that work I

was there now I'm over here I didn't

just jump over there there is a process

that happens as you scrutinize as you

take an interest in how minds attention

jumps from one thing to another then you

start to see before I really got caught

in the mud there was something that

happened right before that so you let go

and six are come back to your object of

meditation and you notice what happened

right before you got caught in the mud

and you six are then and as you keep

doing this you start seeing other little

things that are right and you six are

then and you start staying on your

object to meditation longer and your

distraction doesn't last for as long and

you don't get so wound up in it so

you're teaching yourself by its fruit

tonight

how nice attention works and it gets

incredibly interesting and it turns out

to be kind of fun

but what master Gautama is most helpful

for scrutiny we ask master go to know

about the thing most helpful for

scrutiny application of the will is most

helpful for scrutiny student if one does

not apply ones will scrutinize

you have to make the decision

two

take a look

you have to make your decision if you

don't take a look at it you get caught

in all those concepts and you start

fighting with the concepts and causing

yourself more and more pain you're not

learning about how the process works so

you have to make the decision that I

want to see this time when I went out

after I got my book middle Lake st. and

went out for two weeks on my own this

became such an interesting process I

couldn't believe it after 20 years of

sloshing around in some heavy-duty

philosophical ideas and opinions and

concepts all of a sudden I'm seeing it

for real

this is great stuff

then after two weeks of no no I can't

quit now I gotta people this is great

it's not just regular good and I wound

up staying three months yeah I didn't

that I just I what I basically did was I

took the SAT a putana suit I took the on

upon us ought to suit up and I read them

over and over again but

I would just go to the book and open it

up to a page and start reading because

every time I did that there was

something there that was it just jumped

out it I mean there was laughed and I

didn't need it invited my in my cave I

was at light bulbs going off in my head

all the time was ripping true and i

would i would read one thing and i go

and because of the way my mind works

don't have with quick intelligence so it

takes me a while to see how something

works but once I see something work and

I really see it I see every aspect

around it so I understand it very deeply

and that's what I wound up doing for

three months is just going oh let's try

this suit what does it say here oh wow

yeah now let's see how that really does

work but it was not just thinking about

it was practicing the right effort

and then an insight would come and it

would go boynton and I would go oh look

at that and I was having the best time

of my life because I was finally

figuring out something that I've been

studying for 20 years and been led to

believe was very difficult to understand

and it's not

so when I was told to take the

commentaries and just close the book and

put him over there and don't even read

refer to of anymore and just go to the

souta's that was revolutionary to me

because I had always gone back to the

commentary and I always got confused

because the commentaries didn't match up

for the suit is very well

so I had this period of time it really

was the most fun fun that I've had in my

life because everything started making

sense and there was no suffering it was

just one oh wow that's right after

another look at what I'm doing to myself

why do I need to do that I don't need to

do that anymore I can let that go it's

nothing and it was just a series of

those over and over and over again I

kind of wondered how long for the state

in that cave they had done to get me and

made a mistake and wrote to them told

him where I was

yeah but then you might not be sitting I

still might be in that yeah I'm gone oh

wow look at that one but what master

gotoman is most helpful for application

of the will we asked master gautam about

the thing most helpful for the

application of will enthusiasm is most

helpful for application of the willesden

if one does not arouse enthusiasm one

will not apply ones will how do you

arouse your enthusiasm I see it it works

and going yeah that's right now let's

see if it works and everything see how

it works with all of this does it work

in a sec yeah it does

as you become more enthusiastic

sometimes you have to curb your

enthusiasm you can go cool yeah you need

a little bit of tranquility along with

it but your understanding just blossoms

because it's fun it's truly fun

but because one rouses enthusiasm one

applies ones will that is why enthusiasm

is most helpful for the application of

the world but what master gupta mel is

most helpful for a busy azum we ask

master go to know about the thing most

helpful for enthusiasm reflected

acceptance of the teaching is most

helpful

just what I was saying

if one does not gain reflected

acceptance of the teaching enthusiasm

will not strain up but because one gains

a reflective acceptance of the teachings

enthusiasm springs up that is why a

reflective acceptance of the teachings

is most helpful for enthusiasm but what

master go to what is most helpful for a

reflective acceptance of the Dietrich's

question

we asked master Gautama about the thing

most helpful for reflective acceptance

of the teachers examination of the

meaning is most helpful why do I spend

so much time on giving you definitions

so the meaning can be

that is the thing examination of the

meaning is most helpful for reflective

acceptance of the teaching student if

one does not examine their meaning one

will not gain a reflective acceptance of

the teachings but because one examines

their meaning one gains a reflective

acceptance of the teachings that is why

examination

most helpful for reflect reflective

acceptance of the secrets but what

master Gautama is most helpful for

examination of meaning we asked master

go to them about the thing most helpful

for examination of meaning memorizing

the teachings is most helpful for

examining the

if one does not memorize a teaching one

will not examine its meaning but because

one memorizes a teaching one examines

its meaning this doesn't necessarily

mean that you have to memorize every

suta although it's real good if you do

because then you have it with and you

can reflect on it very easily but this

means remembering your six hours

remembering what the Five Precepts are

aggregates are memorizing these things

you have

and when you do that then you can start

reflecting on their use in different

ways and it gets to be I love those kind

of men

really good

but what master Gautama is well like

memorizing the full path memorizing the

five

No

the five faculties

the time power

the seven enlightenment

memorizing those knowing knowing them

deep is very helpful

but what master Gautama is most helpful

for memorizing the teachings we asked

master Gautama the thing most helpful

for memorizing the teachings hearing the

donna is most helpful for the memory

the teaching student if one does not

hear the Dhamma one does not memorize

the teachers because one hears the

Dhamma one memorizes the teachings that

is why a hearing the domina's most

helpful for Bernard but what master

gotama's most helpful for hearing the

Dhamma we ask master Gautam about the

thing most helpful for hearing the

Dhamma giving here is most helpful for

hearing the Dhamma student if one does

not give here one will not hear the demo

but because one gives here one hears the

dumb one that is why giving year is most

helpful for hearing

that means that while you're listening

to add on the top you're not thinking

about what happened yesterday or what's

gonna happen after the dollar

and it does happen it doesn't happen

real often but it does happen that there

are some souta's that you can listen to

that are so deeply profound for you that

it changes your whole way of looking

would be the six sets of six is by far

the most powerful suta that I brought

across it's wonderful all of that

repetition is absolutely necessary

because we need their repetition so it

sinks in and then you got it when I was

in Germany somebody read it in German

and while they were reading it it

affected their mind so deeply that he

had a complete personality

this is powerful stuff and a lot of the

people were there they'd never had a

dominant effective occasionally I have

had Dhamma talks that that were just so

stunning that all i could do and sit

back everybody leave me alone I go I

gotta go with this this is great this is

why giving here is it's a special kind

of attention

comparing anything

listening and getting what they would

always say

and then fire servant

1200 mopar hots just by listening to

that one dhamma talk I'd say that was

pretty impressive

I'll pull it out too yes but what master

Gautama is most helpful forgiving here

we asked master gogo to know about the

thing most helpful for giving here

hating respect is most helpful for

giving ear suited if one does not pay

respect one give here but if one pays

respect one gives here that is why

paying respect is most helpful for

giving here i have saved monks go to

donna talks and all of a sudden they're

nodding off they're not paying respect

and actually I have to say that has

I start listening to somebody and

they're just not getting my mind

discusses

not nothing

that and that's not respected

but when they respect you always being

benefit

even though half of the Dominator you

might hear might be around the other

half can be very profound for you

but one of the reasons i prefer reading

the suit this is because you know that

it's not

words

and you'll pay more respect because

but what master go to buzz most helpful

for paying respect we ask master Gautama

about the thing most helpful for paying

respect visiting is most helpful for

paying respects to if one does not visit

a teacher one

they respect to him but because one

visits a teacher one pays respect to him

that is why I visiting is most helpful

for paying my expect but what master

Gautama is most helpful for visiting we

asked master go to mom about the thing

most helpful for visiting faith is most

helpful for visiting

if faith in a teacher does not arise one

will not visit him but because faith in

a teacher arises when visiting that's

why faith is

we asked master Gautam about the

preservation of truth and master go to

answered about the preservation of fruit

we approve and accept the app that

answer and we so we and so we're

satisfied we asked master go to know

about the discovery of truth and master

Gautama answered about the discovery of

truth we approve of and accept that

answer and so we're satisfied we asked

master Gautam about the final arrival at

truth and master Gautama answered about

the final arrival at fruit we approve

and accept that answer so we're

satisfied we ask master go to know about

the thing most helpful for the final

rival of truth and master Gautama

answered about the thing most helpful

for the final arrival at fruit we have

proved up and accept that answer so

where's that

whatever we ask master Gautama about

that he answered us we approve of and

accept that answer it's over satisfied

formerly master Gautama we used to think

who are these bulk aided recluses these

swarthy menial offspring of the

kinsman's feet in Asia that's really

heavy anything to do with your feet is

considered dirty

these worthy menial offspring of the

kids rooms feet that they would

understand the Dhamma but master Gautama

as a deed inspired in me love for

recluses confidence in resources and

reverence for recluses magnificent

master Gautama magnums from today let

master Gautama remember me as a lay

follow was gone to him for refuge for

life so now you know what we're doing

now you know how to do it guiding

questions

isn't that a nice it's my second paper

it's my second

what's your first trans them Ganesa

super

yeah that's a good one I gave her that

book should just about dropped her load

good number in years every year I would

take it out and spend at least a month

with it or more now there's only a

couple things in the translation

everything mm-hmm just a couple words

the one [ __ ] polywood mojo a mojo for

gladness and we'll say really bhikkhu

Bodhi calls it gladness to me it's very

much closer to the whole thing comes

down to its the dependent origination

and all these other things and a way to

get to the deliverance and all of that

so it's talking about the experience of

John and every time you let go while the

hindrance there is relief and it's a

kind of gladness but that's the

difference between the scholars view of

a word and a practice or practices

I don't consider myself the staff

but when you have the direct experience

you start painting the living words that

when you came from what the scholar says

it seems to make sense for everybody and

then they go oh yeah yeah that's right

that's the way it worked so relief is is

a better word for that and then he says

the next one is actually brap brap

surely and I've never liked is changing

the word p key which is holly word for

joy to rapture it's too Christian that's

too misunderstood

joy is better my way at they community

and

the

then there's tranquility I agree with

that wholeheartedly because after joy

there's always a very tranquil feeling

and the next one he changes to pleasure

and change it to happy that I'm in the

suit cuz he changes it to pleasure

pleasure born in seclusion you aren't a

bet I'm probably wrong but no probably

are you are you allowed to gamble are

you saying did it that way this is a

different way in the book this is in

every suit about the about the first job

pleasure born of seclusion it's just a

few years to hearing me change with the

happy

and I don't like that that translation

so

like pleasure

the poly word in suka suka is always

translated as happy

and you remember what I told you about

the word sukkah

so there are some words that I really

prefer to have the old traditional uses

of them rather than the newfangled

pieces and that's one of the problems I

have with some other translators as they

try to make it modern language

they give definitions two words that are

not common

and they can be correct but i'm not

going to look up this definition for

every word that i run across it i don't

understand what he's talking about when

i go by the old traditional ones i

really understand

translations

okay anybody billion questions

yeah kind of a question about champion

yemek Ricans

in your opinion

is there value or benefit in just

practicing their pursuit us when there

is value in trenton suitors

I personally

not enthralled with candy

and I don't know why it might be because

of past lifetimes I was a forest mom and

forest mounts don't necessarily do any

chanting at all you know they don't they

don't have a buddha image to bow to they

don't have a lot of these things but

they're doing the real practice so

that's kind of where I am more into the

real practice the suit chanting there's

a story about these two brothers that

they ordained at the same time and the

younger brother decided well I've got a

long time so I'm gonna memorize all of

the suitors that gave memorable the

older monk the older brother said you

know I haven't got so much time so I'm

going to go practice the older month

went into a forest practice became an

arm came back to see his younger brother

and younger brother was really kind of

full of himself because he'd memorized

all these suit dis which is not an easy

thing to do but the Buddha saw that this

was happening and he saw that the

younger brother was going to try to

trick the older brother by asking

questions so the Buddha came around and

he asked a question

and the soup that practicer couldn't

answer and he asked the older brother in

the question and he gave a perfect

answer because we have the direct

experience and he did this three or four

times and it really humbled the younger

younger brother and the Buddha raised

the older brother for doing the practice

instead of just merely memorizing and it

inspired the younger brother

so

that's kind of where I met

I'd rather do the practice

and I suppose if I really spent enough

time I could memorize them I don't have

a good member

and you see by when you listen to me re

i'm always fumbling over words i have to

go back and reread it or whatever

because I the dyslexia kicks in and and

words jump around for me and that's just

the way it is and that's the way my mind

works and I come too old and change if

they guess I don't I don't know how to

change

so I accept the fact that i'm going to

fumble around and I don't have a good

memory and I'm going to read the suitors

but i'll try to understand them as he

plays a cap

so why don't we share some merit

and suffering one was the suffering free

and the fear struck

may all beings sharing the spirit that

we have thus acquired for the

acquisition of all kinds of happiness a

beings inhabiting space under david's

and Nagas of my power share in the

scenarios and they long protect the

witness the sensation

you

there's a headband of the village and

then there's a hit man of the bunch of

villages and then ahead man of the whole

area and they still they still are like

them so if you have any problem

you go see one head man after another

and get to try to get the problem solved

and they're they're real helpful that

way and there

more popular the headmen is the letter e

as it's all ding dings so this is this

is what trunki was he was like a head

man of a big building a big area so this

is the cha Chi su tonight 95 the Brahmin

householders a post-op asada heard the

Rekluse Gautama the son of this Hawkins

who went forth from the sake and plan

has been wandering in the country of the

diet with a large saga of monks with 500

months he couldn't go to the bathroom

with you dip he didn't have 500 months

behind he always everywhere he went he

had 500 bucks now good report of the

master Gautama has been spread to this

effect the blessed one is accomplished

fully enlightened perfect and true

knowledge and conduct think about that

too

perfect

who is the Politis racist the wisest

sublime nor world and comparable persons

leader of persons to detain teacher of

gods and yunnan enlightened and blessed

he declares this world's with its gods

its Mara's and his promise this

generation with the recluses and

brahmins with his princess and its

people which he has himself realized

with direct knowledge he teaches the

Dhamma good in the beginning good in the

middle and good in the end with the

right meaning and freezing he reveals a

holy life that is utterly pure now it is

good to see such our hearts I would

think so looking that kind of a buildup

you know yeah that sounds like somebody

then the Brahmin householder of OPA sada

set forth from opa sada in groups and

bands and headed northwards to the gods

grove the solitary drove the Sala tree

is really a beautiful tree it has leaves

that are smaller than maple tree but

they're really like perfect little

little needs and when it flowers it has

white flowers that are just not your

eyes off you Japanese are real big on

their cherry blossoms I think the salad

is better and it has been has very nice

scent it's not

you go buy orange trees when they're

flowering and they have a very nice

scent for a little while and then it's

too heavy the solid tree isn't like that

is always night very now on that

occasion the Brahmin chowki had retired

to the upper story of this palace for

his new day rest then he saw the Brahmin

householders of 0 Posada setting forth

from 0 Posada and groups and bands and

heading northward to the gods grilled

the solitary goal when he saw them he

asked his minister good Minister why are

the brahmin householders of Oh Posada

setting forth from opus out in groups

and bands and heading northward to the

gods drove the solitary growth sir there

is the Rekluse go to mow the son of the

sake ins who went forth from the sake

and plan who has been wandering in the

closed island country and it goes

through what i just read and the other

chapters that it says they are going to

see master go to

then good miss the good then good

Minister go to the Brahmin householders

of 0 Posada and tell them serves the

Brahmin chomping says this please wait

serves the Brahmin chunky will also go

to see the master go to know yes sir the

minister and replied and went to the

Brahmin householders of oppa sada and

gave them the message now on that

occasion 500 brahmanas from various

states we're staying at Oak asada for

some business or ever they heard the

brown and chunky it is said is going to

see the Rekluse go to know then they

went to the Brahman chunky and ask em

sers is it good that you're going to see

the Rekluse Gautama it is so serves I'm

going to see the Rekluse goats of surf

do not go see the Rekluse go to mount it

is not proper master comfy for you to go

see the Rekluse Gautama rather it is

proper for the Rekluse goats about to

come see you

for sir you are well born on both sides

that needs his mother and father of pure

maternal and paternal descent seven

generations back that means for seven

generations this family has been

promised unassailable an impeccable and

respective birth since that is so master

chalky it is not proper for you to go

see the Rekluse Gautama rather it is

proper for the Rekluse go to not to come

see you you sir are rich with great

wealth and great possessions you sir are

a master of the three Vedas with their

vocabularies liturgy phonology etymology

and the histories as the fifth skilled

in ecology and grammar you are fully

versed in the natural philosophy and

Anna marks of a great man you sir are

handsome comely and graceful possessing

supreme beauty of complexion with

sublime beauty and sublime presence

remarkable to behold you sir are

virtuous a tour in virtue possessing the

tour virtue you sir are a good speaker

with good delivery you speak words that

are courteous distinct flawless and

communicate

you sir teach the teachers of many and

you teach the recitation of the hymns to

the 300 Brahman students you sir are

honored respected revered venerated and

esteemed by king pasenadi of Misawa you

sir are honored respected revered

venerated in esteem by the brahman polka

heart Hara Hara sake user rule over

Posada a crown property to bounding and

living beings a sacred grant given to

you by king pasenadi touka-sama since

this is so faster kultana it is not

proper for you to go see the recluse

book Gautama rather it is proper for the

Rekluse Gautama come see you

there's a story I can't remember the man

but the name of the person

from the time view was born he never had

to touch the ground

it was carried everywhere he looked and

he was so delicate that he actually had

cared growing out of the bottom of his

feet

and he became very famous because of

that we may always have people around

doing and it was just a very talented

person and he would get invited places

and he would have to sit so that they

could see the bottom of the hair on the

bottom speak he went to hear the Buddha

and he became real enthusiastic and he

wanted to become a month now the monks

they walked around the countryside

without anything on the bottom of their

feet they walked barefoot

and he knew this but he still wanted to

be coming up

so he became a monk and he went to this

one place and he got his own little who

he and he started doing his practice of

meditation and he would alter me walking

him city but his feet were so tender

that if they started me because he was

walking

wraps and that sort of thing

and his walking area started to smell

like a slaughtered yard

and the Buddha happened to walk by his

area and said what is this why is this

happening somebody's an odd it's nothing

it's just this month he is very tender

very delicate and he when he wants

his feet are so delicate that causes

blood

because of this one

we are now allowed have samples

he did us a great turn

and soon after that he was able to walk

without pain in his feet and he became

Inara

so that gives you an idea of how tender

some of these people are that were and

pampered some of these rich indian

princess work

there there was an aruba i think it was

in Aruba

he saw a Buddha in one lifetime and he

gave him a meal and with that meal he

made a determination that he would never

hear I don't have so during the time of

the Buddha he was reborn this Buddha and

he was reborn and as he was growing up

he had a bunch of friends that he was

playing with and it is gambit and what

he was gambling was cakes so he lost so

he said to his mother and said please

send me some cakes so she's up any lost

some more and he said to his mother and

said please send me some cakes and she

sent him only college she got the next

time he lost some more please send me

some case I don't have any case she sent

back an empty date now because this

determination was so strong the Davis

put heavenly cake into this everything

and when they got the cakes they started

eating it and oh it was like the best

smell you've ever run across and it

tingled all of the sense buds in your

tongue and now oh this is the greatest

game ever and he got upset and he went

to his mother and said you don't love me

and she said why do you say that well

you've never given me these I don't have

cakes before and those are the best so

you don't love me because you never gave

me the best so from there and then on

any time he wanted some cake she said I

don't have and he got it celestial cakes

and he got into a discussion with his

friends and he said where does food come

from

and aniruddha said food comes from a

gold bowl because he always seen it in a

gold bowl he never went out he was

always in this area of playing around

and doing whatever and there was this

discussion of where the food came from

and all of these young prince's didn't

know where food came from they didn't

know you had to till the soil and you

had to do all of these things and

finally went to his older brother I

think his older brother was Mahama and

asked where food came from so his older

brother took him out to the fields and

showed him all the things that needed to

be done in it freaked him out and he

said that's way too much work

I don't something like I heard the

Buddha gave a talk not too long ago I

don't want to become up

and he and his younger brother he came

my brother was a number

and he was

for most

in the divine I in the second to the

Buddha in the divine I you can see a

thousand world systems just like you

stand on a hill that you can see a

village over there and you point your

mind towards that village it's like

you're walking around with it you know

there's another one

he could do that with world systems

anyway that gives you an idea of the

truly protected lifestyle

ok

so because he was he was so protected

the Brahmins didn't want him going out

and seeing labuda they wanted to luda to

come see him because he was so happy and

it looked bad for the brahmanas when

this was said the Brahmin chalky told

the Brahmins now sirs hear from me why

it is proper for me to go to the master

go to LA and why it is not proper for

master Gautama to come see me sir the

Rekluse Gautama is Wellborn on both

sides of pure maternal and paternal he

sent seven generations back he was born

in the warrior class it was not a

problem but that's still considered real

hot the Brahmins most of them are the

truly educated but quite a few of the

warrior class who's very highly

they were educated more in mathematics

they were more like the the CEOs of

businesses and things like that

since this is so it is not proper for

master Gautama to come see me it is

wrath rather it is proper for me to see

master Gautama sirs the Rekluse Gautama

went forth abandoning much gold in

bullion stored away in vaults and

depositories cerner the ritas Gautama

went forth from the home life into the

homeless while still young a black

haired young man endowed with the

blessings of youth in the prime of his

life the Brahmans what they do is they

they get married they have their

children than when they get to be 60

then they become reclusive they leave

their family they've taken care of

everything who needed to be taken care

of and now they can so to have somebody

this young to become an ascetic and be

as wealthy as he was and all of these

and this really highly unusual certain

the replays Gautama shaved off his hair

and beard and put on the yellow robe and

went forth from the whole lot home life

into the homelessness otherwise and wept

with the tearful faces sorry the repos

go to us add some company graceful

possessing supreme beauty of complexion

with sobriety blind beauty and sublime

presence remarkable to behold sir

Doritos Gautama is virtuous with noble

virtue with wholesome virtue possessing

wholesome virtually serves the ritas

Gautama is a good speaker with good

delivery he speaks words that are

courteous distinct flawless and

communicate the meaning serves the

ruthless Gautama as a teacher of the

teachers of many serves the riches

Gautama is free from sensual lust and

without personal vanity serves the retos

goten all holds the doctrine of the

moral FC of action the doctor of the

moral apathy of bees he does not seek

any harm for the line of Brahmans sir

the ritas Gautama went forth from an

aristocratic family one of the original

noble families sir the ritas go Tamela

went forth from a rich family from a

family of great wealth and great

possessions

serves people come from remote kingdoms

in remote districts to question their

equals go to them serves many thousands

of deities have gone for refuge for life

to the Rekluse Gautama serves a good

report of the Rekluse Gautama has been

spread to this effect that the Blessed

One is accomplished boolean like perfect

and true knowledge and condom sublime

nor of worlds incomparable leader of

persons to be pain persons of gods and

teacher of gods and humans enlightened

and blessed sirs the recos Gautama

possesses the 32 marks of a great man

sirs King singha bimbisara of Magadha

and his wife and family have gone for

refuge for life to the Rekluse Gautama

serves king pasenadi of pasala and his

wife and children have gone for refuge

for life to the Rekluse go to them now

king bimbisara was the king of very

large region Oh m'god aha and actually

speaking

the language that the Buddhist both is

Martha

but we call it Polly I don't know how

I've got this term

but he spoke in common language that was

the most common dialect for that area

that he spent most of his time it he

chose not to speak Sanskrit because too

many people wouldn't understand it the

common farmers and merchants and that

sort of thing they didn't speak Sanskrit

they went to the Brahmins to find out

what the Sanskrit been so by teeth by

talking directly to the common people

and using a language that they could

really understand this is one of the

reasons that Buddhism became so popular

and that's kind of what I'm trying to do

in this country not use language that

isn't familiar very use simple language

so that you can understand didn't the

Buddha or minus they can say something

about that for the Dhamma to flourish

yes

he encouraged that we look into other

religions so that we can be able to talk

intelligently but to use as as common

language as we can but the thing that

happens it happens in Thailand it

happens in Burma they get very well

educated they have they memorized huge

quantities of things and because of the

language in the suta that they memorize

that's the language that they use and

then it has to be translated and they

use to hio language for the common

people to really understand

and that's one of the reasons why the

Buddhism in Asian countries is not

flourishing as much as it can another

reason is

material possessions are getting easier

and easier to get and people are

starting to get greedy and that's not

what Buddhism is about some people are

starting to leave that more important

sirs the Rekluse gautama has arrived at

OPA sada and as living at 0 Posada in

the gods Grove the solitary growth to

the north of Oak asada now any recluses

or brahmins that come to our town are

our guest and guest should be honored

respected revered and venerated violence

says the recos Gautama has arrived at 0

Posada he is our guest and as our judge

should be honored respected revered and

venerate advice since this is so it is

not proper for master Gautama to come

see me rather it is proper for me to

conceive as per go to sirs so much is

the praise of master Gautama that I have

learned but the praise of master Gautama

is not limited to that for the praise of

master Gautama is immeasurable since

master Gautama possesses each of each

one of these factors it is not proper

for me to come see you rather it is it

is not proper for him to come see me

rather is proper for me to come see

master go to the

therefore sirs let all of us go to see

the master Gautama when the brahman

chunky together with a large company of

Brahmans went to the Blessed One and

exchange greetings with him when this

courteous and amiable talk was finished

he sat down at one site oh and other

suit does it talks about large groups of

people coming to see master go to mind

some of them would make a big show

bowing to him and saying things to him

as your health is there anything I can

help you sort of others would come in

and they didn't bow they put their hands

together and about their head they

didn't get down on the ground and they

would say their family knee and then

talk very little with him and then go on

some people would just come in and they

would put their hands together and say

their family name and go on other people

would come in and just say their family

names that go sit down the idea of

having to bow

is very cultural

the idea of paying respect it's not yes

so when we do no ceremonies in United

States this the prostration and

everything I mean should we be doing

that or should we be you know fold our

house you do yeah it's good for these

kind of the kind of ceremonies like

maybe they have like ceremonies yeah uh

yes it's good to bow but not overdo it

now there's some people it's a sit well

you have to bow and then when you put

your hands down you have to open your

hands like no you bow you touch your

elbow and your wrist nature down all the

way what's more important than the

actual bowing is what are you doing with

your mind while you're doing that are

you radiating loving-kindness are you

radiating respect that's the important

aspect of the bowing the bowing is just

an external show

what are you doing with your right when

I first became a monk in Thailand I've

gone gone from these different teachers

and I was radiating loving kindness to

them and they would always stop me and

say very good because they could feel

the loving kindness that I was sending

them and it was sincere it was real so

that's what we have to learn in this

country is we have developed a certain

kind of pride that I'm equal to

everybody else but there are times that

we need to show respect for other people

and it is in your mind

now on that occasion the blessed one was

seated finish and finishing some amiable

talk with some very senior Brahmins at

that time sitting in the assembly was a

Brahmin student named kapot Lika young

shaven head 16 years old he was a master

of the three Vedas with the vocabularies

liturgy phonology etymology and his

presence of it skilled in philology in

grammar he was well versed in the

natural philosophy and then marks of a

great men somebody that's that young to

have that kind of mind that they could

memorize all of this stuff because

that's how they did things back then

they did out written language they

didn't use it very much

he wanted to know something you

memorized

I have another suit different

image this one

I get to listen to it

so

for a 16 year old to be able to do that

is quite remarkable he had a very

remarkable night now when i was in Burma

I was staying at this monastery the Kami

Gaeta Gaeta means meditation center ka

is very flowery

wishing well

and we had this on madera that was 9

years

soul and he had just a brilliant but he

could remember things off just

unbelievable so the teacher gave him the

first book of avi dominance memorized

and he did and he took a test on it and

he passed higher than all the other

older boys he didn't nobody has

memorized but he memorized brilliant

Mike but after I left Burma I found out

that he took off the robes because he

was very attached to his daughter and he

wanted to be with his

but to have a mind

truly remarkable so this the 16 year old

is pretty remarkable so it makes it seem

like a prodigy yeah yeah prodigy that

would be a good word for it

well the very senior Brahmins were

conversing with a blessed one he broke

in and interrupted their talk then the

blessed one rebuked the Brahmins student

thus let not the venerable student break

in and interrupt the talk of the very

senior Brahmins while they're conversing

let the then the venerable student wait

until the talk has been it this is very

much show of respect not to break in

when especially senior monks get

together dude your mouth sitting back

they don't think I'm blessing your mouth

turns and says something directly

that is a very strong show of respect

what

what generally happens if the group of

monks come to see a particular month the

senior of that group is the one that

talks to them and while i was in Burma

happened to be the senior motor for some

reason I don't know how that sort of had

happened so why we would go visit like

there there was a month that he was

quite remarkable for 50 years he

practiced loving-kindness meditation you

walk in the room you knew he was

radiating a lot of kindness I mean you'd

it's new it it was such a strong monk

that whenever he did it he chanted they

put a bowl of water right in front of

him and the water acted like it was

boiling who would be bubbling and then

he would give the water to whoever

wanted it

special water all kinds of claims happen

because of that I I don't like that sort

of thing but it happens we have to

accept it but because i was the senior

monk I got to talk with him for a little

while and oh this is great fun and he

made sure that he gave me there was six

months that that were there and he gave

me six ropes so that I could give them

to all of the other and just a special

talk

I mean when we all walk out of this room

we were always my good it just creates

grateful

so

and the the show of respect was always

very a very necessary part of Buddhism

that a junior monk never breaks into

winter scene your mouth is saying

something never interrupt oh no I don't

believe no you don't do that you never

point your finger at it trying to make a

point

you need to have very polite behavior

because monks are very polite people and

you want to show respect to that

be polite with them

and give respect to the years of there

being months it's not all cake cake and

candy being month let me tell you

but

it is worthwhile

anyway

when this was said the Brahman chunky

said to the blessed one let not master

go to my raiment the rebuke the Brahman

student the Brahmans student is a

Klansman he's very learning he has good

delivery he's wise he's capable of

taking part in the discussion with

master go to him now chunky because he

was a ruler of that area knew all of

these people that had special gifts and

that's why he spoke up to the to the

Buddha because he was the most respected

one in that area it was his job to talk

to the Buddha letting look

then the blessed one thought surely sets

the Brahmins honor him thus the Brahman

student must be accomplished in the

scriptures of the three Vedas when the

Brahmins student thought when the

Rekluse Gautama catches my eye I shall

ask him a question one of the things

that happens with months is they have a

tendency to know when you have these

kind of thoughts and they will ya okay

you have a question they'll do that then

knowing with his own mind the thought of

the Brahmin student the Blessed One

turned his eye towards him when the

Brahmins student thought the reckless

Gautam I has turned towards me suppose I

asked him a question then he said to the

blessed one master Gautama in regard to

the ancient romantic hymns that have

come down through oral tradition and in

scriptural purple collections the

Brahmins come to the definite conclusion

only this is true anything else is wrong

what does the master Gautama say about

this

how them student among the Brahmins is

there even a single Brahmin who says I

know this I see this only this is true

and everything else is wrong well no

master Gautama how then stood among the

Brahmins is there even a single teacher

or single teachers teachers back to the

seventh generation of teachers who says

I know this I see this only this is true

anything else is wrong no master Gautama

how then stood the ancient Brahmin Sears

the creators of the hymns the composers

of the hymns whose ancient hymns that

were formerly chanted utter and compiled

the Brahmins nowadays still chant and

repeat repeating that was spoken than

reciting what was recited and then he

goes through a bunch of names that I'm

not going to

those are hard to pronounce for me did

even these ancient Brahmin sears saved

us we know this we see this only this is

true everything else is wrong no master

note tonight so student it seems that

among the brahmanas there's not even a

single Brahmin who says I know this I

see this and only this is true

everything else is wrong and among the

Brahmins there's not even a single

teacher or a single teachers teacher

back to the seventh generation of

teachers who says thus I notice I see

this only this is true everything else

is wrong and the ancient Brahmin Sears

the creators of the hymns the composers

of the hills even these ancient brahman

Sears do not say thus we know this we

see this only this is true and

everything else is wrong suppose there

were a file of blind men each touch with

the note with the next the first does

not see the middle does not see in the

last does not see so to student in

regard to their statement the Brahmin

seemed to be like a file of blind men

the first does not see the middle one

does not see and the last does not see

what do you think student that being so

does the faith of the Brahmin turn out

to be groundless

interesting thing here is when we have

the suit does we don't blindly believe

the suitcase just because it's written

in a book we don't take it to mean that

it's all going to be under present very

true our direct experience we can see

whether it is true or not and whether

what you're practicing is right and what

suta says might not be right and it's

okay to say this part of the suta is

misleading it does not lead to the end

result that the Buddha is teaching

it's okay because of your direct

experience what I'm talking about is

suit to number 20 in the mag- kiya there

is some sections there that are

definitely misleading and going away

from what the Buddha taught it is not

only correct but it is proper for me to

bring this up for you part of the suta

it says that when a hindrance arises and

you can't get rid of it it won't go away

then you take your tongue and press it

against the roof of your mouth and you

fresh mind with mine the Buddha did not

teach that that was taken from another

suit where the Buddha said if you

practice this way it doesn't work but

some monks later just took that part and

said well we're goes along with our one

pointed concentration so we're going to

put that in the suit

I have practiced one

good concentration virtually

I have practice tranquility meditation

for 15 years I know and I see the

difference

and it is okay for me to say this part

of the suit does not agree with the

village teacher it is not right

another interesting part of that is that

it stands alone it's not surrounded by

supports that 36 is surrounded by

supporting information it matches and

supports it but 20 stands alone which is

really really unusual for something

that's strong to be standing there and

not have others such as the whole point

comes down to yes it stands alone and

yes the other suitors will agree with

what I'm saying but it is the direct

experience of trying to do that and

seeing the end result and going that

doesn't seem right who is trying to push

their tongue against the roof of their

mouth and make fresh pine with mine who

is doing that who doesn't like that

Hendricks who wants that entrance to

disappear and it always comes back to me

it comes back to my its I don't want

that

I have to control that I am seeing this

as concept and taking it personal

so it's very important

to not blindly believe anything but when

your direct experience is such that you

see for yourself

that is when

you can believe what is written in

does come back to your director

from it the Brahmins honor not only out

of faith master Gautama they also honor

it as oral tradition student first you

took the stand on faith now you take a

stand on oral tradition there are five

things student that may turn out in two

different ways here and now what five

faith approval oral tradition reason

cognate cogitation and reflective

acceptance of a view it can either be

one I mean I could come out in two ways

you can either be a positive thing or

negative things you have to be careful

with these five things may turn out in

two different ways here and now now

something may be fully accepted out of

faith yet it might be empty hollow and

false but something else bade may not be

fully accepted out of faith yet it might

be factual true in an unmistakable again

something may be fully approved of maybe

well cogitated may be well reflected

upon yet it might be empty hollow and

false but something else might not be

well reflected upon yet it might be

cool true and unmistakable it is not

proper for a wise man who preserves

truth to come to the definite conclusion

only this is true anything else

but master Gautama and what way is there

the preservation of truth how is one how

does one preserve truth we asked master

Gautama about the preservation of truth

if a person has faith student he

preserves the truth when he says my

faith is us is my faith is Gus

but he does not come to the definite

conclusion only this is true anything

else is wrong what happens in this

country my faith is true and you're

wrong if you don't believe my faith in

this way student there is the

preservation of truth in this way he

preserves truth in this way he describes

the preservation of truth but as yet

there's no discovery of truth so just by

saying my faith is thus you can't come

to the definite conclusion only this is

true you have to investigate if a person

approves of something if he resides an

oral tradition if he reaches a

conclusion based on reason cogitation if

he gains a reflective acceptance of a

view he preserves the truth when he says

my reflective accept acceptance of this

view art

my reflective acceptance of a view is

thus but he does not come to the

definite conclusion only this is true

and anything else is wrong in this way

to student there is the preservation of

truth in this way he preserves truth in

this way he describes the preservation

of truth but as yet there is no

discovery of truth in that way master

Gautama there is the preservation of

truth in that way one preserves the

truth in that way we recognize a

preservation of proof but in what way

master Gautama is there the discovery of

proof in what way does one discover

truth we ask master go to know about the

discovery of truth here student a monk

may be living in dependence on some

village or town when a householder or a

householder son goes to him and

investigates in regards to three kinds

of states in regards to states based on

greed in regards to states based on hate

in regards to state based on delusion

are there in this vendor

any states based on grades such that

with his mind obsessed by those dates

while not knowing he may say I know or

while not seeing he may say I see or he

might urge others to act in a way that

would lead them to their arm and

suffering for a long time as he

investigates he comes to know there are

no such things based on greed in this

venerable one the bodily behavior in a

verbal behavior of this venerable one

are not those of one affected by greed

and the Dhamma that this venerable one

teaches is profound hard to see and hard

to understand peaceful and sublime

unattainable by mere reasoning and

subtle to be experienced by the wives

the Dhamma cannot easily be taught by

one affected by dream

an example of something that happened in

Thailand there's a particular teacher

that he developed this system of crystal

ball with the gold Buddha inside holding

a crystal ball with gold Buddha inside

holding a crystal ball and he became

very popular because people could do

this meditation he died and the guy that

took over his monastery his way of

teaching wanted to build this huge

facility where a hundred thousand people

who come and they could sit under a roof

so they wouldn't get wet at that rained

and it was huge about some money

was collected and the way he collected

it was by telling people that they were

going to if they donated all their money

to him right now they were going to be

reborn in the day belocca and they would

be super-rich and they believed it and

he has built this thing I mean it's

really fantastic he's got marble floors

oh just all kinds of things remarkable

and he's quite heavily criticized

because of his

it's greed of wanting something to

happen that he turned into his own

personal legacy instead of the legacy of

the truth

inning

when he has investigated him has seemed

that he is purified from States based on

greed he next investigate Simmons in

regard to states based on hate are there

in this venerable one and his states

based on eight such that with his mind

obsessed by those states he might hurt

others to act in a way that would lead

them to their harm and suffering for a

long time as he investigates him he

comes to know there's no such dates

based on eight in this venerable one the

bodily behavior in a verbal behavior of

this venerable one are not those of one

affected by hate and the Dhamma that

this venerable one teaches is profound

to be experienced by the wives this

Dhamma cannot easily be taught by one

affected by eight when he has

investigated him and seen that he is

purified from those states based on

eight he next investigates him based on

delusion that's delusion

you told me this before you

taking things personally

oh yeah

that's crazy do that but it all comes

down to because we think in concepts we

take these concepts to be ours and then

you get wrapped up in either liking or

disliking whatever arises and as we

start to learn a whole point is that we

take everything that arises in our mind

so personally

and we think in such concepts all the

time that we don't see the true nature

of everything is that it arises and ass

it's not it's not your

when you see that there is a very

intriguing aspect of the Dhamma that

happens

desire to control becomes less and less

because we're seeing it's true

it just came up as thoughts and these

ideas they just came up by themselves

and as you stop feeding the thoughts and

I did by feeding them I mean taking them

as yours and trying to control them as

you stop beating these and making them

stronger they will get weaker and

eventually they won't even arise and

causing problems eventually this is a

gradual practice

so it's not going to happen overnight

and sometimes for some people it does

when you start realizing that sometimes

a feeling like there was a I was giving

a talk and this lady that set up the top

was listening and all of a sudden she

got a panicked when she got a panic

attack he was telling me after the talk

generally it took her two or three days

to overcome this panic

but as she was sitting there she didn't

want to get up and run out of the room

and be by herself because she thought

that would be very rude so she'd SAT

there and she started thinking well this

month is telling me that all I have to

do is practice my six ours and this

feeling will go away by itself and she

did it and in about two minutes the

panic disappeared and her mind became

very clear and very bright and very

alert now her habitual tendency when

this kind of feeling arose was to take

it personally and try to control it with

her thoughts and it didn't work it made

the feeling bigger and more intense

until after a couple days she kind of

forgot about it because it's boring for

your mind to stay on the same thing for

too long and then she would recover but

this time

after two minutes of six earning it

allowing the space for it to be there

but not eating into it it went away by

itself she let go of the delusion she

let go of that belief that that feeling

was hurt and it was a major lesson that

she had during a dominant so

when he is and has investigated him and

has seen his purified from states based

on he he next investigates in regards to

states based on delusion are there in

this month per venerable one any states

based on delusion that's with his mind

obsessed in those states he might urge

others to act in a way that would lead

to their harm and suffering for a long

time as he investigates that he comes to

know there are no States based on

delusions venerable one the bodily

behavior the verbal behavior of this

venerable one are not those of one

affected by delusion and the Dhamma that

this venerable one teaches is profound

to be experienced by the wise this

Dhamma cannot easily be taught by one

affected by delusion

when he has investigated him and has

seen that he is purified from states

based on delusion then he places faith

in him filled with things he visits him

and pays respect to him having paid

respect to him he gives ear when he

gives ear he hears the Dhamma having

heard the Dhamma he memorizes it and

examines the meaning of the teachings he

has memorized when he examines the

meaning he gains a reflective acceptance

of those teachings when he has gained

reflective acceptance of those teachings

enthusiasm springs up when enthusiasm

has sprung up he applies his will having

applied his will he scrutinizes applies

his will means that he has the choice of

whether to get involved with these

things that arise or not it's your

choice you can

get into your old habits getting

involved fighting with it making

yourself suffer more and more or not

the Buddha offers us a way to change and

let go of the supper

this is very major difference and you

don't blank me believe anything you

don't blindly believe anything even if

the Buddha said it check it out for

yourself see whether it works if it

works then do it if it leads to your

happiness and the happiness of others

around

so

and you scrutinize you I mean you keep

looking to see whether it's right man

and you strive you strive striving has

four parts seeing the unwholesome

recognizing it letting go the

unwholesome and relaxing bringing up the

wholesome smiling your object of

meditation staying with your object of

meditation or hearts describing also we

call it the six arms

resolutely striving he realizes with the

body the ultimate truth he sees it by

penetrating with the wisdom what is

penetrating with wisdom seeing how the

process works seeing dependent

origination in this way student there is

the discovery of truth it all comes back

to you it's not the Buddha it's not me

it all comes back to you and the way

you're practicing and the way you're

looking as closely as you can

in this way student there is the

discovery of truth in this way one

discovers truth in this way we describe

the discovery of truth but as yet there

is no final arrival of truth in that way

master Gautama there is the discovery of

truth in that way one discovers truth in

that way we recognize the discovery of

truth but in what way master Gautama is

there the final arrival at true good

question

in what way does one finally arrived at

proof we asked master Gautama about the

final arrival at true the final arrival

at truth student lies in the repetition

development and cultivation of those

same things in this way student there is

the final arrival at truth in this way

one finally arrives at truth in this way

we describe the final arrival and fruit

what are you doing

invitation

practicing the six hours over it'll

and over a repetition

you start to go deeper

your meditation

you're developing your understanding of

how the process works

and you're cultivating

that is

how you arrived at true

that's the final rival that true

repetition why do we have to do so much

repetition because we're slow learners

I'm proud of it I have to work for the

things that I that I understand it

didn't come easy I've been doing this

stuff for years but finally there comes

a time that you do it so much over and

over again and your mind goes oh look at

that I never saw that before of course

you've seen it I've thousands and

thousands of times and that's why it's

always so funny when people are

practicing meditation with you they'll

hear me say relax practice your six ours

over and over again and they go yeah

yeah yeah yeah and then they finally do

it and it works and they'll come to me

all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and

they'll say you know I've always heard

you say this over and over again I

always believed it and I always did it

but now I understand

and they go off and they're like real

happy for a little while and then they

hear me say thanks hope for it over

again and then it will happen again

they'll understand it come to me and

they say I understood what you were

talking about but now I really

understand it it's comical because I'm

saying the same thing over and over

again that the repetitions need

and it's an important part of the

meditation

in this way student there is the final

arrival to treat in this way one finally

arrives at three in this way we describe

the final rival that fruit in that way

master go to know there is the final

arrival recruit in that way one finally

arrives the truth in that way we

recognize the final rival it through but

what master Gautama is most helpful for

the final rival it true we ask master go

to know about the thing most helpful for

the final arrival with true striving is

most helpful for the final arrival at

truth student if one does not strive one

will not finally arrived at truth but

because one strives one does finally

arrived at truth that is why striving is

most helpful for the final round

the truth what is driving these told you

six arms

but master go to

what is most helpful for striving we

asked master Gautama the thing most

helpful for striving scrutiny is most

helpful for striving student if one does

not scrutinize one will not strive but

because one scrutinizes one strives that

is why scrutiny is most helpful for

striving seeing how the process works

looking see how your mind gets

distracted I mean I was sitting there

and I was happy and everything was going

along great and all of a sudden I'm in

the mood how did that happen that's the

question why we don't care about what

why just leads to more questions that

you can't answer but how did that work I

was there now I'm over here I didn't

just jump over there there is a process

that happens as you scrutinize as you

take an interest in how minds attention

jumps from one thing to another then you

start to see before I really got caught

in the mud there was something that

happened right before that so you let go

and six are come back to your object of

meditation and you notice what happened

right before you got caught in the mud

and you six are then and as you keep

doing this you start seeing other little

things that are right and you six are

then and you start staying on your

object to meditation longer and your

distraction doesn't last for as long and

you don't get so wound up in it so

you're teaching yourself by its fruit

tonight

how nice attention works and it gets

incredibly interesting and it turns out

to be kind of fun

but what master Gautama is most helpful

for scrutiny we ask master go to know

about the thing most helpful for

scrutiny application of the will is most

helpful for scrutiny student if one does

not apply ones will scrutinize

you have to make the decision

two

take a look

you have to make your decision if you

don't take a look at it you get caught

in all those concepts and you start

fighting with the concepts and causing

yourself more and more pain you're not

learning about how the process works so

you have to make the decision that I

want to see this time when I went out

after I got my book middle Lake st. and

went out for two weeks on my own this

became such an interesting process I

couldn't believe it after 20 years of

sloshing around in some heavy-duty

philosophical ideas and opinions and

concepts all of a sudden I'm seeing it

for real

this is great stuff

then after two weeks of no no I can't

quit now I gotta people this is great

it's not just regular good and I wound

up staying three months yeah I didn't

that I just I what I basically did was I

took the SAT a putana suit I took the on

upon us ought to suit up and I read them

over and over again but

I would just go to the book and open it

up to a page and start reading because

every time I did that there was

something there that was it just jumped

out it I mean there was laughed and I

didn't need it invited my in my cave I

was at light bulbs going off in my head

all the time was ripping true and i

would i would read one thing and i go

and because of the way my mind works

don't have with quick intelligence so it

takes me a while to see how something

works but once I see something work and

I really see it I see every aspect

around it so I understand it very deeply

and that's what I wound up doing for

three months is just going oh let's try

this suit what does it say here oh wow

yeah now let's see how that really does

work but it was not just thinking about

it was practicing the right effort

and then an insight would come and it

would go boynton and I would go oh look

at that and I was having the best time

of my life because I was finally

figuring out something that I've been

studying for 20 years and been led to

believe was very difficult to understand

and it's not

so when I was told to take the

commentaries and just close the book and

put him over there and don't even read

refer to of anymore and just go to the

souta's that was revolutionary to me

because I had always gone back to the

commentary and I always got confused

because the commentaries didn't match up

for the suit is very well

so I had this period of time it really

was the most fun fun that I've had in my

life because everything started making

sense and there was no suffering it was

just one oh wow that's right after

another look at what I'm doing to myself

why do I need to do that I don't need to

do that anymore I can let that go it's

nothing and it was just a series of

those over and over and over again I

kind of wondered how long for the state

in that cave they had done to get me and

made a mistake and wrote to them told

him where I was

yeah but then you might not be sitting I

still might be in that yeah I'm gone oh

wow look at that one but what master

gotoman is most helpful for application

of the will we asked master gautam about

the thing most helpful for the

application of will enthusiasm is most

helpful for application of the willesden

if one does not arouse enthusiasm one

will not apply ones will how do you

arouse your enthusiasm I see it it works

and going yeah that's right now let's

see if it works and everything see how

it works with all of this does it work

in a sec yeah it does

as you become more enthusiastic

sometimes you have to curb your

enthusiasm you can go cool yeah you need

a little bit of tranquility along with

it but your understanding just blossoms

because it's fun it's truly fun

but because one rouses enthusiasm one

applies ones will that is why enthusiasm

is most helpful for the application of

the world but what master gupta mel is

most helpful for a busy azum we ask

master go to know about the thing most

helpful for enthusiasm reflected

acceptance of the teaching is most

helpful

just what I was saying

if one does not gain reflected

acceptance of the teaching enthusiasm

will not strain up but because one gains

a reflective acceptance of the teachings

enthusiasm springs up that is why a

reflective acceptance of the teachings

is most helpful for enthusiasm but what

master go to what is most helpful for a

reflective acceptance of the Dietrich's

question

we asked master Gautama about the thing

most helpful for reflective acceptance

of the teachers examination of the

meaning is most helpful why do I spend

so much time on giving you definitions

so the meaning can be

that is the thing examination of the

meaning is most helpful for reflective

acceptance of the teaching student if

one does not examine their meaning one

will not gain a reflective acceptance of

the teachings but because one examines

their meaning one gains a reflective

acceptance of the teachings that is why

examination

most helpful for reflect reflective

acceptance of the secrets but what

master Gautama is most helpful for

examination of meaning we asked master

go to them about the thing most helpful

for examination of meaning memorizing

the teachings is most helpful for

examining the

if one does not memorize a teaching one

will not examine its meaning but because

one memorizes a teaching one examines

its meaning this doesn't necessarily

mean that you have to memorize every

suta although it's real good if you do

because then you have it with and you

can reflect on it very easily but this

means remembering your six hours

remembering what the Five Precepts are

aggregates are memorizing these things

you have

and when you do that then you can start

reflecting on their use in different

ways and it gets to be I love those kind

of men

really good

but what master Gautama is well like

memorizing the full path memorizing the

five

No

the five faculties

the time power

the seven enlightenment

memorizing those knowing knowing them

deep is very helpful

but what master Gautama is most helpful

for memorizing the teachings we asked

master Gautama the thing most helpful

for memorizing the teachings hearing the

donna is most helpful for the memory

the teaching student if one does not

hear the Dhamma one does not memorize

the teachers because one hears the

Dhamma one memorizes the teachings that

is why a hearing the domina's most

helpful for Bernard but what master

gotama's most helpful for hearing the

Dhamma we ask master Gautam about the

thing most helpful for hearing the

Dhamma giving here is most helpful for

hearing the Dhamma student if one does

not give here one will not hear the demo

but because one gives here one hears the

dumb one that is why giving year is most

helpful for hearing

that means that while you're listening

to add on the top you're not thinking

about what happened yesterday or what's

gonna happen after the dollar

and it does happen it doesn't happen

real often but it does happen that there

are some souta's that you can listen to

that are so deeply profound for you that

it changes your whole way of looking

would be the six sets of six is by far

the most powerful suta that I brought

across it's wonderful all of that

repetition is absolutely necessary

because we need their repetition so it

sinks in and then you got it when I was

in Germany somebody read it in German

and while they were reading it it

affected their mind so deeply that he

had a complete personality

this is powerful stuff and a lot of the

people were there they'd never had a

dominant effective occasionally I have

had Dhamma talks that that were just so

stunning that all i could do and sit

back everybody leave me alone I go I

gotta go with this this is great this is

why giving here is it's a special kind

of attention

comparing anything

listening and getting what they would

always say

and then fire servant

1200 mopar hots just by listening to

that one dhamma talk I'd say that was

pretty impressive

I'll pull it out too yes but what master

Gautama is most helpful forgiving here

we asked master gogo to know about the

thing most helpful for giving here

hating respect is most helpful for

giving ear suited if one does not pay

respect one give here but if one pays

respect one gives here that is why

paying respect is most helpful for

giving here i have saved monks go to

donna talks and all of a sudden they're

nodding off they're not paying respect

and actually I have to say that has

I start listening to somebody and

they're just not getting my mind

discusses

not nothing

that and that's not respected

but when they respect you always being

benefit

even though half of the Dominator you

might hear might be around the other

half can be very profound for you

but one of the reasons i prefer reading

the suit this is because you know that

it's not

words

and you'll pay more respect because

but what master go to buzz most helpful

for paying respect we ask master Gautama

about the thing most helpful for paying

respect visiting is most helpful for

paying respects to if one does not visit

a teacher one

they respect to him but because one

visits a teacher one pays respect to him

that is why I visiting is most helpful

for paying my expect but what master

Gautama is most helpful for visiting we

asked master go to mom about the thing

most helpful for visiting faith is most

helpful for visiting

if faith in a teacher does not arise one

will not visit him but because faith in

a teacher arises when visiting that's

why faith is

we asked master Gautam about the

preservation of truth and master go to

answered about the preservation of fruit

we approve and accept the app that

answer and we so we and so we're

satisfied we asked master go to know

about the discovery of truth and master

Gautama answered about the discovery of

truth we approve of and accept that

answer and so we're satisfied we asked

master Gautam about the final arrival at

truth and master Gautama answered about

the final arrival at fruit we approve

and accept that answer so we're

satisfied we ask master go to know about

the thing most helpful for the final

rival of truth and master Gautama

answered about the thing most helpful

for the final arrival at fruit we have

proved up and accept that answer so

where's that

whatever we ask master Gautama about

that he answered us we approve of and

accept that answer it's over satisfied

formerly master Gautama we used to think

who are these bulk aided recluses these

swarthy menial offspring of the

kinsman's feet in Asia that's really

heavy anything to do with your feet is

considered dirty

these worthy menial offspring of the

kids rooms feet that they would

understand the Dhamma but master Gautama

as a deed inspired in me love for

recluses confidence in resources and

reverence for recluses magnificent

master Gautama magnums from today let

master Gautama remember me as a lay

follow was gone to him for refuge for

life so now you know what we're doing

now you know how to do it guiding

questions

isn't that a nice it's my second paper

it's my second

what's your first trans them Ganesa

super

yeah that's a good one I gave her that

book should just about dropped her load

good number in years every year I would

take it out and spend at least a month

with it or more now there's only a

couple things in the translation

everything mm-hmm just a couple words

the one [ __ ] polywood mojo a mojo for

gladness and we'll say really bhikkhu

Bodhi calls it gladness to me it's very

much closer to the whole thing comes

down to its the dependent origination

and all these other things and a way to

get to the deliverance and all of that

so it's talking about the experience of

John and every time you let go while the

hindrance there is relief and it's a

kind of gladness but that's the

difference between the scholars view of

a word and a practice or practices

I don't consider myself the staff

but when you have the direct experience

you start painting the living words that

when you came from what the scholar says

it seems to make sense for everybody and

then they go oh yeah yeah that's right

that's the way it worked so relief is is

a better word for that and then he says

the next one is actually brap brap

surely and I've never liked is changing

the word p key which is holly word for

joy to rapture it's too Christian that's

too misunderstood

joy is better my way at they community

and

the

then there's tranquility I agree with

that wholeheartedly because after joy

there's always a very tranquil feeling

and the next one he changes to pleasure

and change it to happy that I'm in the

suit cuz he changes it to pleasure

pleasure born in seclusion you aren't a

bet I'm probably wrong but no probably

are you are you allowed to gamble are

you saying did it that way this is a

different way in the book this is in

every suit about the about the first job

pleasure born of seclusion it's just a

few years to hearing me change with the

happy

and I don't like that that translation

so

like pleasure

the poly word in suka suka is always

translated as happy

and you remember what I told you about

the word sukkah

so there are some words that I really

prefer to have the old traditional uses

of them rather than the newfangled

pieces and that's one of the problems I

have with some other translators as they

try to make it modern language

they give definitions two words that are

not common

and they can be correct but i'm not

going to look up this definition for

every word that i run across it i don't

understand what he's talking about when

i go by the old traditional ones i

really understand

translations

okay anybody billion questions

yeah kind of a question about champion

yemek Ricans

in your opinion

is there value or benefit in just

practicing their pursuit us when there

is value in trenton suitors

I personally

not enthralled with candy

and I don't know why it might be because

of past lifetimes I was a forest mom and

forest mounts don't necessarily do any

chanting at all you know they don't they

don't have a buddha image to bow to they

don't have a lot of these things but

they're doing the real practice so

that's kind of where I am more into the

real practice the suit chanting there's

a story about these two brothers that

they ordained at the same time and the

younger brother decided well I've got a

long time so I'm gonna memorize all of

the suitors that gave memorable the

older monk the older brother said you

know I haven't got so much time so I'm

going to go practice the older month

went into a forest practice became an

arm came back to see his younger brother

and younger brother was really kind of

full of himself because he'd memorized

all these suit dis which is not an easy

thing to do but the Buddha saw that this

was happening and he saw that the

younger brother was going to try to

trick the older brother by asking

questions so the Buddha came around and

he asked a question

and the soup that practicer couldn't

answer and he asked the older brother in

the question and he gave a perfect

answer because we have the direct

experience and he did this three or four

times and it really humbled the younger

younger brother and the Buddha raised

the older brother for doing the practice

instead of just merely memorizing and it

inspired the younger brother

so

that's kind of where I met

I'd rather do the practice

and I suppose if I really spent enough

time I could memorize them I don't have

a good member

and you see by when you listen to me re

i'm always fumbling over words i have to

go back and reread it or whatever

because I the dyslexia kicks in and and

words jump around for me and that's just

the way it is and that's the way my mind

works and I come too old and change if

they guess I don't I don't know how to

change

so I accept the fact that i'm going to

fumble around and I don't have a good

memory and I'm going to read the suitors

but i'll try to understand them as he

plays a cap

so why don't we share some merit

and suffering one was the suffering free

and the fear struck

may all beings sharing the spirit that

we have thus acquired for the

acquisition of all kinds of happiness a

beings inhabiting space under david's

and Nagas of my power share in the

scenarios and they long protect the

witness the sensation

you