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Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.

the suta tonight is a mojave de la soupe

de the greater series of questions and

answers thus as I heard on one occasion

the blessed one was living in Swati and

jeta's grove anathapindika's park then

when it was evening the venerable

makuhita rose from meditation and went

to the venerable sorry boot and

exchanged greetings with him he actually

came with his students because he wanted

to ask sorry food to some questions so

they could hear the answer sorry puto is

going to give them witness courteous and

amiable talk was finished he sat down at

one side and said to the venerable sorry

puta one who is unwise one who is unwise

and said friend with reference to what

was this said one who is unwise one is

not wise me understand one does not

wisely understand friend that's why it

is

is unwise what doesn't want why is need

understand one does not wisely

understand this is suffering one does

not wisely understand this is the origin

of suffering

one does not wisely understand this is

the cessation of suffering one does not

wisely understand this is the way

leading to the cessation of suffering

one does not wisely understand one does

not wisely understand friend that's why

it is said one who is unwise now this is

referring to the links of dependent

origination and how the Four Noble

Truths are in each link saying good

friend the venerable maha cojito

delighted and rejoiced and the venerable

sorry Buddha's words then he asked him a

further question one who is wise one who

is wise friend with reference to what

was this said one who is wise one why it

is me understands why wisely understands

friend that's why it is said one who is

wise so any time you hear the word wise

or

it's actually referring to the links of

dependent origination how they work what

does one wisely understand when wisely

understands this suffering one wisely

understands this is the origin of

suffering one wisely understands this is

a cessation of suffering one wisely

understands this is a wave leading to

the cessation of suffering one wisely

understands one wisely understands

friend that's why it is said one who is

wise consciousness consciousness is said

friend with reference to what is

consciousness said it comprises it

cognizes friend that's why consciousness

is says now this is the difference

between recognize or recognize that has

to do with memory with you cognize that

has to do with what you're seeing in the

present as it's happening that is why

consciousness is said friend what does

it got nice it cognizes this is pleasant

it cognizes this is painful it cognizes

this is neither painful or

pleasant it cognizes it cognizes friend

that's why consciousness is said wisdom

and consciousness friend are these

states can joint or disjoint and is it

possible to separate each of these

states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them

interesting question

wisdom and consciousness friend these

states are conjoined not disjoint and

it's impossible to separate each of

these states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them

this isn't closely for what one wisely

understands that one cognizes and what

one compromises that one wise he

understands that is why these states are

enjoying not disjointed and it's

impossible to separate each of these

states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them I

love this question what is the

difference you've just got through being

told it's impossible to separate between

what is the difference between wisdom

and consciousness these states that are

conjoined not disjoint listen closely

again the difference friend between

wisdom and consciousness these states

that are conjoined

is this wisdom is to be developed

consciousness is to be fully understood

got it

want to hear it again wisdom is to be

developed you have to develop the

ability to recognize the links of

dependent origination right and

consciousness is to be fully understood

okay it means does he know one of the

things that I actually got an argument

with a monk about this because I use the

word understand and he used the word see

and I said they're the same but he

argued about it it's kind of hard to

differentiate these two because seeing

also has other meanings like you're

seeing coloring form but seeing is also

the understanding is the deep internal

knowledge

okay feeling feeling this said friend

with reference to what his feeling said

it feels it feels friend

that's why feeling that said what does

it feel it feels pleasure it feels pain

it feels neither pain nor pleasure it

feels it feels friend

that's why feeling is said perception

perception has said friend with

reference to what is perception said it

perceives it perceives friend

that's why perception has said what does

it perceive now actually perception is

the very beginning of conceptual

thinking okay this is a table where's

the table is it the legs is the top is

it the bracing where is the table the

table is made up of different things put

together to make up this concept of a

table we have only think in concepts you

see this and you say what is this it's a

cup that's a concept where's the cup

where is the automobile where's the

chair everything is a bunch of concepts

and that's one of the reasons why

translation is so tricky because you're

always working with concepts

different ideas about some different

words it really does get tricky so what

we talk about in this suit is colors as

concepts it perceives blue it perceives

white it perceives red and perceive

yellow it perceives it perceives friend

that's why perception is said feeling

perception and consciousness friend part

of these states conjoined or disjoint

and is it possible to separate each of

these states from the others in order to

describe the difference between them

feeling perception and consciousness

friend these states are conjoined not

disjoint and it's impossible to separate

each of these states from the others in

order to describe the difference between

them for what one feels that one

perceives and what one perceives that

one compromises so you recognize it

a feeling of rises as pleasant painful

neither painful nor Pleasant that's the

perception of that feeling and you

cognize you know it's there right so

that's why the the five aggregates are

actually just three aggregates because

treating the act

kids are always conjoining they're

always together so that's a different

way of thinking about the aggregates

that is why these states are conjoined

not this giant and it's impossible to

separate each of these states from them

from the others in order to describe the

difference between them now we're going

to start getting into a different kind

of way of thinking about things and this

is called knowable by mind alone friend

what can be known by purified mind

consciousness released from the five

faculties how many times do you sample

these don't have them you only have a

purified mind consciousness oh but my

back hurts my bottom hurts no it doesn't

it is a mental thing okay if you divide

your attention and start paying

attention to your body you're not going

to go very deep in your

you're not going to understand how

everything works friend buy purified

mind consciousness released from the

five faculties the base of infinite

space can be known this space is

infinite the base of infinite

consciousness can be known thus

consciousness is infinite the base base

of nothingness can be known thus there

is nothing the way that I'm teaching you

is there's compassion with infinite

space can there's joy with infinite

consciousness and equanimity with the

realm of nothing friend with what does

one understand a state that can be known

you're gonna love this answer friend one

understands a state that can be known

with the eye

absolutely

it's seen an understanding

Oh in Katmandu there's a very famous

pagoda that has a pair of eyes and it

has a squiggly line right here I've

always got a kick out of people cuz they

told me that squiggly line means the

line of wisdom actually you know what

that squiggly line is it's a hair dot

right there it was a hair that was about

two feet long and it was white and it

just curled up and then it just stayed

right there that's what that is it's not

a third eye it's a hair so Fred what is

the purpose of wisdom that's an

interesting question the purpose of

wisdom friend is direct knowledge its

purpose is full understanding its

purpose is abandoning

that's how you get into the

unconditioned State all conditioned

things and that means all the links of

dependent origination you have to let go

now I've always loved this part here

this is called right view friend how

many conditions are there for the

arising of right view friend there are

two conditions for the arising of right

view the voice of another person and

wise attention we're talking about his

voice we're talking these are the two

conditions for the arising of rain view

if he hadn't come along we never would

have known anything about rend

how many factors is right you assisted

when it has deliverance of mind for its

path deliverance of mind for its path

and fruition when it has deliverance by

wisdom for his path and deliverance by a

wisdom for its path information friend

right view is assisted by five factors

when it has deliverance of mind for its

path deliverance of mindful

path and fruition when it has

deliverance by wisdom for its path and

deliverance by wisdom for his path and

fruition here friend right view is

assisted by virtue keeping your precepts

learning discussion serenity and the

insight right view is assisted by these

five factors and has deliverance of mind

for its path deliverance of mind for its

path and fruition

it has deliverance by wisdom for its

path and deliverance by wisdom for its

path and fruition virtue learning

discussion serenity and insight the

learning at first you learn a lot about

the precepts and all of that sort of

thing but it's also how you are teaching

yourself how this process works and

you're teaching yourself how to let go

of crazy

let go of the crazy so you don't get

caught and the discussion you really

have to be kind of careful with

discussion one of the things that has

started to happen in some of the

countries that have been teaching that

is there's a starting to be more and

more people that have had attained a

bottom and they try to hold discussions

with people that do different kinds of

practice and it just turns into

arguments you have to be careful who

you're talking with okay you want to be

able to talk with somebody that you can

actually communicate with not getting an

argument with so what I wind up telling

most people is don't talk to anybody

about your attainment that's just that's

your personal information nobody else

needs to know what attainment you have

but you can talk with

about Dhamma and because you have these

attainments you're going to understand

more deeply so you can actually start

helping more people

now this is a section on being and this

is what I call habitual tendency but

it's only taking one part of habitual

tendency it's only taking the sense

spirit realm existence becoming

sometimes doesn't really explain

especially when you're getting into

dependent origination when you use the

word a visual tendency you understand

what your what's happening there that's

why I had that major discussion with

seal Ananda and I basically asked him if

it was okay that I started using that

and he said yes and then I'd get around

other monks and I would hear them

talking about bah-bah-bah

and in my mind I kept on replacing it

with habitual tendency and it works so I

prefer to use that because it's it's

less confusing but it doesn't touch all

of the different kinds of bhava it's

just the sense fear there are these

three kinds of being friend sense fear

being fine material being

that means giving into the first round

and to the fourth China and immaterial

being and that means from the fourth

fourth the four states after the fourth

job friend

how is renewal of being in the future

generated friend renewal of being in the

future is generated through the

delighting in this and that on a part of

beings who are hindered by ignorance and

fettered by craving so craving and

hindrance these are these are big major

ones you have to be able to recognize

these as clearly the root word of

ignorance is to ignore and he didn't

like that at all and he said no the

ignorance is talking about the the Four

Noble Truths and not understanding the

Four Noble Truths I said oh you mean

ignoring the Four Noble Truths

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well it to many people they use the

definition of ignorance as stupid and

it's not yeah it's not understanding

different concepts different ideas so

when you when you start looking at and

it's easier for people to understand in

when you describe it in that way rather

than just ignorant specifics and it's

becoming better understood but it's only

taken me 20 years to have people start

understanding more about crazy friend

how is renewal of being in the future

not generated friend with the fading

away of ignorance with the arising of

true knowledge with the cessation of

craving renewal of being in the future

is not generated

just so you get more clear idea how

about dependent origination and now the

Buddha did this how he figured it out

this is called the origination monks

before my awakening while I was still

only a bodhisattva awakened it occurred

to me alas this world has fallen into

trouble and that it is born ages and

dies it passes away and is reborn yet it

does not understand the escape from this

suffering will be discerned from the

suffering headed by a dream in death

then box it occurred to me when what

exists does aging and death come to be

by what is aging and death condition

then walks through careful attention

there took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is birth aging and

death comes to be aging and death have

birth as its condition then it occurred

to me when what exists does birth come

to be by what is birth conditioned then

monks

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by

when there is habitual tendency earth

comes to be birth has a natural tendency

as condition then amongst it occurred to

me when what exists does virtual

tendency come to be but what is the

chool tendency condition then moms

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by wisdom

when there is clinging habitual tendency

comes to be habitual tendency has

tinging as its condition that monks it

occurred to me when white exist this

cleaning come to be by what is clinging

conditioned then monks through careful

attention there took place in me a

breakthrough by a wisdom when there is

praising clinging comes to be clinging

as crazy as its condition then monks it

occurred to me when what exists does

craving come to be but what is creating

that mocks through careful attention

there took place in me breakthrough by a

wisdom when there is feeling crazy thing

comes to be craving as feeling as

condition understand he was one of the

most advanced meditators in the world of

one-pointed concentration he was really

smart

and he learned how to do those

meditations because of so much past

meditation that he had done in lifetimes

before but this is brandon concepts and

he was he was brilliant mind he had

because he would he would go and he

would well just come up with crazy ok

what happens before craving and his mind

was settled enough that he would look in

all different directions to see the the

easiest thing

stand Oh feeling yeah feeling happens

and then arises so he was what can you

say it was really a smart guy first for

asking those kind of questions because

he was really concerned that people were

suffering a lot and they didn't have any

way to get out of it

I meant to teach people and it's been

seven bombs well but after he figured it

out but the thing is when you start

reading about the Buddha of

enlightenment and already figured out

that was intellectually when he stood

first

so he's figuring it out right now

then all these all of it and then he has

to see it as actually know that before

amazing

well listen again there took place and

through my wisdom it was revolutionary

nobody and that's the way you actually

learn it that's all you're teaching it

yourself

when the hindrance comes up okay and

then it comes up again you start to

notice right before you got pulled away

by the hindrance there's something there

right before that so the next time catch

it right there

and now you're caught for as long and

you started seeing how

process words would you say if you catch

it right precisely there that that's

catching at that addiction see well it

can be any one of the the links of

dependent origination depends on how

long and where you're catching it and

how long you've been staying with your

entrances before you know this bit but

it pretty much follows this pattern then

monks it occurred to me when what exist

those feeling them to be by what is

feeling conditioned that's another one

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careful attention there took place in me

a breakthrough by wisdom when there is

contact feeling comes to be feeling as

contact as its condition that monks it

occurred to me when exists does contact

come to me by what is contact condition

then monks through careful attention

there took place and me through a

breakthrough

when there are the success stories

contact comes to be this is the one

thing that is a little bit iffy for me

6m stores I mean that six different

thing and you had to figure out well he

knows what the cent stores are but he

had to be able to put them all together

and put him and show that when you go to

the diggin e kya that's the long

discourses when he first became a monk

had become a soda and he didn't have a

whole lot of time to do meditation and

he never got the fruition of sotapanna

anyway he went someplace with the Buddha

and they sat in meditation and he got

the fruition and he

the Buddha and he said you know this

dependent origination I don't know why

so many people think it's so difficult

this is easy is easy can be you could

see it and the Buddha scolded him and he

said it's not easy to see it took me a

long time to figure this time but when

they talked about how he saw the links

of dependent origination he didn't see

ignorant he didn't see formations and he

didn't see the success stories in the

description well ignorant it's pretty

easy why he didn't see that because he

was seeing that in each one of the links

the formations is the potential the

preparations for body speech and mind so

he's not gonna actually see that and the

success doors he's not gonna see all the

success doors he's going to see nama

Rupa he's gonna see mentality and

materiality so it's real interesting how

he only saw nine links of dependent

origination but if you there's places in

here that you can go and you can see 23

things so depend

I'll have to do for it

I'll try to get it she's mean that's

it's real interesting the way the way he

has laid out anyway

quite often when people are seeing the

links of dependent origination after

they had the experience of Nirvana when

they'd start seeing the links at first

you just see one one set of the links

for living backs was twenty four links

but when you become socket egami and

your mindfulness is good it's twice as

long and you become a Nanak I mean

you're starting to see more and more

clearly the links of dependent

origination that you'll see in three

times in a row so you really do start to

see them more clearly and you'll start

to see them in everything and everybody

around you you'll start recognizing the

impersonal nature of everyone and you'll

start seeing things more and more

clearly as process and impersonal

process

so

when you become our hot you see it four

times and you can spend a lot of time

going over that it's quite interesting

to do that sort of thing okay contact

comes when there are the six cents basis

contact comes to be contact as the six

cents basis as condition then monks it

occurred to me when what exists do the

six senses come to be by what are the

six sense bases conditioned then through

careful attention there took place in

Mia breakthrough by a wisdom when there

is mentality and materiality the six

base has come to be the sixth sense

basis mentality materiality is condition

so the actual experience is

talk about the twelve links of dependent

origination but the actual experiences

from almost everybody it is nine unless

they just want to add in but it is very

interesting sister came on she's putting

them both website Masuka Asia and she

has a little thing that shows you how to

make a chart of all the links of

dependent origination and how you

understand the things

an origination is going fit so if you

want to look that up I think she's

one of the things that happened in

Malaysia was there was a group of eight

Chinese that didn't speak English and

she still taught them the links of

dependent origination and they

understood it because of the translator

and that was that was really inspiring

to see that they actually did understand

the things then box it occurred to me

when what exists does the mentality and

materiality come to be by what is

mentality materiality condition that

monks through careful attention there

took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is consciousness

mentality materiality comes to be in

tality materiality has

consciousness as condition that monks it

occurred to me when what exists does

consciousness come to be but what is

consciousness conditioned then most

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by wisdom

when there are preparations

consciousness comes to be breath

consciousness has preparations as

condition that monk it occurred to me

when what is as to preparations come to

be by what our preparations condition

that machs through careful attention

there took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is ignorant

preparations come to be preparations

have a prince's condition thus with

ignorance as condition preparations come

to be with preparations

conditioned consciousness comes to be

origination of origination thus mom in

regard to things unheard before there

arose and mean vision knowledge wisdom

true wisdom and radiance

and then it goes through the I get a bit

lost with the tuning preparations of

consciousness the kind of jump from

consciousness to next link formations

the potential for body speech and that's

what that is the rest of it like things

falling on this is this it's the

potential for these things to arrive

that's why it gets kind of cloudy you

have to have them so they arise but this

is from past karmic things

Sankara

is formations

okay so now we'll go back to the suit to

that I was reading now we're going to go

to John friend

what is the first jhana your friend

quite secluded from sensual pleasures

secluded from unwholesome States a monk

enters upon and abides in the first

jhana

which is accompanied by thinking and

examining thought with joy and happiness

born of seclusion this is called the

first jhana friend how many factors does

the first jhana I have friend the first

jhana has five factors here when a monk

has entered upon the first jhana there

occurred thinking examining joy that is

how the first drama has five factors

friend how many factors are abandoned in

the first jhana

and how many factors are possessed

friend in the first jhana five factors

are abandoned and five factors are

possessed me here when a monk is entered

upon the first jhana sensual desire is

and it'll will is abandoned sloth and

torpor are abandoned restlessness and

anxiety are abandoned doubt is abandoned

these are the five hindrances aren't

they so when you get into the first

jhana and your mindfulness is good your

mind is very pure at that time and you

can actually obtain Nirvana at that time

if your mind is ready okay so this is

why the Buddha was so he spent so much

time talking about the job

explaining the joggins and the

importance of the jhanas in the end

groups reading Qaeda he called those

that attained Jonna Jonna gobby's and we

just learned he talks about John and ami

he said if you practice the way that he

teaches so that you don't have

while you're in that job when you die

you're gonna be reborn in a brahmaloka

and from there you are going to attain

our ad ship and get off the wheel of

samsara so everybody here is going to

unless you've taken you're going to be

that means absorption concentration one

pointing

because you are not letting go of the

craving you're suppressing the craving

with the concentration you'll be reborn

and a brahmaloka the next lifetime but

when the merit of being in that realm

expires you're going to be reborn in I

don't know how to justify they have

millions and millions of lifetime's that

they have to work purifying their mind

and there's there's they call them the

ten para me well there's three degrees

of the ten bearer me so that's actually

thirty bearer meaning that they have to

work on and it takes a long time

millions and millions of times

and according to the terror violence the

only people that really attain

Buddhahood they have to one they have to

have

potential to become an art hot within

seven days and renounced that they have

to have the willingness to give up their

life now what's happening now is there's

there's always been a big push by to

take a Bodhisattva vow and what did they

say about the bodies after them

oh I'd give up attaining Nibbana until

all beings can attain me vana

well the Buddha couldn't do it if he

could we wouldn't be so is that a

realistic kind of vow to take

some students that were very good at

remembering past life tanks and they ran

across Bodhisattvas every now and then

and they were talking to me about this

one the Burmese lychee was actually kind

of famous she was working with Powell

oxide oh and she said that what happens

to most people that take a bodhisattva

vow is they start figuring how really

hard it is and how many lifetimes they

have to go through it and they don't

have strong enough determination to

become a future Buddha

so they renounced the bow and then when

they renounce the vow they're not reborn

necessarily in a Buddha era and they are

now that mean that makes sense to my

mind to go through the millions of

suffering lifetimes that you sometimes

they really

painful stuff I haven't got the

determination to do it so I figured a

lot of people are like me so and it's

your choice

I don't try to make up anybody's mind

about it but I do try to give out the

information about a bodhisattva vow

because if you take a boat inside to

about it will stop you from attaining

Nibbana right now you'll get right up to

the edge of it I should never never

cross over and I have a couple of

friends that are Bodhisattvas and they

know when they understand he and his son

became sound and air I ordained them

that Simon arranges for a shorter period

of time for two weeks they would eat at

the same table with me and they were

always talking on that boat nice active

our date and the Bodhisattva vow

the movie sucked about what do you think

of the honest answer the father he gave

up the bunny that's just a personal

choice you can do it if you want or not

but understand what the chances of

becoming a future and what that is

expansion and contraction of the

universe the numbers I'm not positive

because Burmese and numbers

they're not real accurate sometimes but

I have read a commentary there are four

ah same kites for parts of my hot copper

one on sank idea in earth years equals

in years 10 with 160 zeros behind it

okay that's a long time in itself now

what happens is for one on st. paya

there's the expansion of the universe

now with the expansion of the universe

that's where beings live in that

universe but it will go for why not st.

aya and then it will stop for one on

sankarea and then the universe will

contract for one on st. area and that

will stop for one on same fact so for us

an Chaya equal one Maha Kaaba which is

ten with 560 zeros behind that's a real

long time

there are basically three kinds of

Buddha

there are all Buddha's but the length of

time that they took them to become a

Buddha is different and their lifespan

is different Gautama was considered an

intelligent Buddha it only took him four

Maha

and a hundred thousand lifetimes to

become a Buddha he lived where the

lifespan was not very long during the

time of the Buddha the average life

lifespan was right around 120 years so

it was it wasn't around all that long

and that's why and he gave it was always

giving Dhamma talks always it took huge

amounts of energy to give Dhamma talks

as much as he did the next kind of

Buddha is called the energetic Buddha no

it takes that Buddha it takes and their

lifespan is around 10

the suta tonight is a mojave de la soupe

de the greater series of questions and

answers thus as I heard on one occasion

the blessed one was living in Swati and

jeta's grove anathapindika's park then

when it was evening the venerable

makuhita rose from meditation and went

to the venerable sorry boot and

exchanged greetings with him he actually

came with his students because he wanted

to ask sorry food to some questions so

they could hear the answer sorry puto is

going to give them witness courteous and

amiable talk was finished he sat down at

one side and said to the venerable sorry

puta one who is unwise one who is unwise

and said friend with reference to what

was this said one who is unwise one is

not wise me understand one does not

wisely understand friend that's why it

is

is unwise what doesn't want why is need

understand one does not wisely

understand this is suffering one does

not wisely understand this is the origin

of suffering

one does not wisely understand this is

the cessation of suffering one does not

wisely understand this is the way

leading to the cessation of suffering

one does not wisely understand one does

not wisely understand friend that's why

it is said one who is unwise now this is

referring to the links of dependent

origination and how the Four Noble

Truths are in each link saying good

friend the venerable maha cojito

delighted and rejoiced and the venerable

sorry Buddha's words then he asked him a

further question one who is wise one who

is wise friend with reference to what

was this said one who is wise one why it

is me understands why wisely understands

friend that's why it is said one who is

wise so any time you hear the word wise

or

it's actually referring to the links of

dependent origination how they work what

does one wisely understand when wisely

understands this suffering one wisely

understands this is the origin of

suffering one wisely understands this is

a cessation of suffering one wisely

understands this is a wave leading to

the cessation of suffering one wisely

understands one wisely understands

friend that's why it is said one who is

wise consciousness consciousness is said

friend with reference to what is

consciousness said it comprises it

cognizes friend that's why consciousness

is says now this is the difference

between recognize or recognize that has

to do with memory with you cognize that

has to do with what you're seeing in the

present as it's happening that is why

consciousness is said friend what does

it got nice it cognizes this is pleasant

it cognizes this is painful it cognizes

this is neither painful or

pleasant it cognizes it cognizes friend

that's why consciousness is said wisdom

and consciousness friend are these

states can joint or disjoint and is it

possible to separate each of these

states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them

interesting question

wisdom and consciousness friend these

states are conjoined not disjoint and

it's impossible to separate each of

these states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them

this isn't closely for what one wisely

understands that one cognizes and what

one compromises that one wise he

understands that is why these states are

enjoying not disjointed and it's

impossible to separate each of these

states from the other in order to

describe the difference between them I

love this question what is the

difference you've just got through being

told it's impossible to separate between

what is the difference between wisdom

and consciousness these states that are

conjoined not disjoint listen closely

again the difference friend between

wisdom and consciousness these states

that are conjoined

is this wisdom is to be developed

consciousness is to be fully understood

got it

want to hear it again wisdom is to be

developed you have to develop the

ability to recognize the links of

dependent origination right and

consciousness is to be fully understood

okay it means does he know one of the

things that I actually got an argument

with a monk about this because I use the

word understand and he used the word see

and I said they're the same but he

argued about it it's kind of hard to

differentiate these two because seeing

also has other meanings like you're

seeing coloring form but seeing is also

the understanding is the deep internal

knowledge

okay feeling feeling this said friend

with reference to what his feeling said

it feels it feels friend

that's why feeling that said what does

it feel it feels pleasure it feels pain

it feels neither pain nor pleasure it

feels it feels friend

that's why feeling is said perception

perception has said friend with

reference to what is perception said it

perceives it perceives friend

that's why perception has said what does

it perceive now actually perception is

the very beginning of conceptual

thinking okay this is a table where's

the table is it the legs is the top is

it the bracing where is the table the

table is made up of different things put

together to make up this concept of a

table we have only think in concepts you

see this and you say what is this it's a

cup that's a concept where's the cup

where is the automobile where's the

chair everything is a bunch of concepts

and that's one of the reasons why

translation is so tricky because you're

always working with concepts

different ideas about some different

words it really does get tricky so what

we talk about in this suit is colors as

concepts it perceives blue it perceives

white it perceives red and perceive

yellow it perceives it perceives friend

that's why perception is said feeling

perception and consciousness friend part

of these states conjoined or disjoint

and is it possible to separate each of

these states from the others in order to

describe the difference between them

feeling perception and consciousness

friend these states are conjoined not

disjoint and it's impossible to separate

each of these states from the others in

order to describe the difference between

them for what one feels that one

perceives and what one perceives that

one compromises so you recognize it

a feeling of rises as pleasant painful

neither painful nor Pleasant that's the

perception of that feeling and you

cognize you know it's there right so

that's why the the five aggregates are

actually just three aggregates because

treating the act

kids are always conjoining they're

always together so that's a different

way of thinking about the aggregates

that is why these states are conjoined

not this giant and it's impossible to

separate each of these states from them

from the others in order to describe the

difference between them now we're going

to start getting into a different kind

of way of thinking about things and this

is called knowable by mind alone friend

what can be known by purified mind

consciousness released from the five

faculties how many times do you sample

these don't have them you only have a

purified mind consciousness oh but my

back hurts my bottom hurts no it doesn't

it is a mental thing okay if you divide

your attention and start paying

attention to your body you're not going

to go very deep in your

you're not going to understand how

everything works friend buy purified

mind consciousness released from the

five faculties the base of infinite

space can be known this space is

infinite the base of infinite

consciousness can be known thus

consciousness is infinite the base base

of nothingness can be known thus there

is nothing the way that I'm teaching you

is there's compassion with infinite

space can there's joy with infinite

consciousness and equanimity with the

realm of nothing friend with what does

one understand a state that can be known

you're gonna love this answer friend one

understands a state that can be known

with the eye

absolutely

it's seen an understanding

Oh in Katmandu there's a very famous

pagoda that has a pair of eyes and it

has a squiggly line right here I've

always got a kick out of people cuz they

told me that squiggly line means the

line of wisdom actually you know what

that squiggly line is it's a hair dot

right there it was a hair that was about

two feet long and it was white and it

just curled up and then it just stayed

right there that's what that is it's not

a third eye it's a hair so Fred what is

the purpose of wisdom that's an

interesting question the purpose of

wisdom friend is direct knowledge its

purpose is full understanding its

purpose is abandoning

that's how you get into the

unconditioned State all conditioned

things and that means all the links of

dependent origination you have to let go

now I've always loved this part here

this is called right view friend how

many conditions are there for the

arising of right view friend there are

two conditions for the arising of right

view the voice of another person and

wise attention we're talking about his

voice we're talking these are the two

conditions for the arising of rain view

if he hadn't come along we never would

have known anything about rend

how many factors is right you assisted

when it has deliverance of mind for its

path deliverance of mind for its path

and fruition when it has deliverance by

wisdom for his path and deliverance by a

wisdom for its path information friend

right view is assisted by five factors

when it has deliverance of mind for its

path deliverance of mindful

path and fruition when it has

deliverance by wisdom for its path and

deliverance by wisdom for his path and

fruition here friend right view is

assisted by virtue keeping your precepts

learning discussion serenity and the

insight right view is assisted by these

five factors and has deliverance of mind

for its path deliverance of mind for its

path and fruition

it has deliverance by wisdom for its

path and deliverance by wisdom for its

path and fruition virtue learning

discussion serenity and insight the

learning at first you learn a lot about

the precepts and all of that sort of

thing but it's also how you are teaching

yourself how this process works and

you're teaching yourself how to let go

of crazy

let go of the crazy so you don't get

caught and the discussion you really

have to be kind of careful with

discussion one of the things that has

started to happen in some of the

countries that have been teaching that

is there's a starting to be more and

more people that have had attained a

bottom and they try to hold discussions

with people that do different kinds of

practice and it just turns into

arguments you have to be careful who

you're talking with okay you want to be

able to talk with somebody that you can

actually communicate with not getting an

argument with so what I wind up telling

most people is don't talk to anybody

about your attainment that's just that's

your personal information nobody else

needs to know what attainment you have

but you can talk with

about Dhamma and because you have these

attainments you're going to understand

more deeply so you can actually start

helping more people

now this is a section on being and this

is what I call habitual tendency but

it's only taking one part of habitual

tendency it's only taking the sense

spirit realm existence becoming

sometimes doesn't really explain

especially when you're getting into

dependent origination when you use the

word a visual tendency you understand

what your what's happening there that's

why I had that major discussion with

seal Ananda and I basically asked him if

it was okay that I started using that

and he said yes and then I'd get around

other monks and I would hear them

talking about bah-bah-bah

and in my mind I kept on replacing it

with habitual tendency and it works so I

prefer to use that because it's it's

less confusing but it doesn't touch all

of the different kinds of bhava it's

just the sense fear there are these

three kinds of being friend sense fear

being fine material being

that means giving into the first round

and to the fourth China and immaterial

being and that means from the fourth

fourth the four states after the fourth

job friend

how is renewal of being in the future

generated friend renewal of being in the

future is generated through the

delighting in this and that on a part of

beings who are hindered by ignorance and

fettered by craving so craving and

hindrance these are these are big major

ones you have to be able to recognize

these as clearly the root word of

ignorance is to ignore and he didn't

like that at all and he said no the

ignorance is talking about the the Four

Noble Truths and not understanding the

Four Noble Truths I said oh you mean

ignoring the Four Noble Truths

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well it to many people they use the

definition of ignorance as stupid and

it's not yeah it's not understanding

different concepts different ideas so

when you when you start looking at and

it's easier for people to understand in

when you describe it in that way rather

than just ignorant specifics and it's

becoming better understood but it's only

taken me 20 years to have people start

understanding more about crazy friend

how is renewal of being in the future

not generated friend with the fading

away of ignorance with the arising of

true knowledge with the cessation of

craving renewal of being in the future

is not generated

just so you get more clear idea how

about dependent origination and now the

Buddha did this how he figured it out

this is called the origination monks

before my awakening while I was still

only a bodhisattva awakened it occurred

to me alas this world has fallen into

trouble and that it is born ages and

dies it passes away and is reborn yet it

does not understand the escape from this

suffering will be discerned from the

suffering headed by a dream in death

then box it occurred to me when what

exists does aging and death come to be

by what is aging and death condition

then walks through careful attention

there took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is birth aging and

death comes to be aging and death have

birth as its condition then it occurred

to me when what exists does birth come

to be by what is birth conditioned then

monks

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by

when there is habitual tendency earth

comes to be birth has a natural tendency

as condition then amongst it occurred to

me when what exists does virtual

tendency come to be but what is the

chool tendency condition then moms

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by wisdom

when there is clinging habitual tendency

comes to be habitual tendency has

tinging as its condition that monks it

occurred to me when white exist this

cleaning come to be by what is clinging

conditioned then monks through careful

attention there took place in me a

breakthrough by a wisdom when there is

praising clinging comes to be clinging

as crazy as its condition then monks it

occurred to me when what exists does

craving come to be but what is creating

that mocks through careful attention

there took place in me breakthrough by a

wisdom when there is feeling crazy thing

comes to be craving as feeling as

condition understand he was one of the

most advanced meditators in the world of

one-pointed concentration he was really

smart

and he learned how to do those

meditations because of so much past

meditation that he had done in lifetimes

before but this is brandon concepts and

he was he was brilliant mind he had

because he would he would go and he

would well just come up with crazy ok

what happens before craving and his mind

was settled enough that he would look in

all different directions to see the the

easiest thing

stand Oh feeling yeah feeling happens

and then arises so he was what can you

say it was really a smart guy first for

asking those kind of questions because

he was really concerned that people were

suffering a lot and they didn't have any

way to get out of it

I meant to teach people and it's been

seven bombs well but after he figured it

out but the thing is when you start

reading about the Buddha of

enlightenment and already figured out

that was intellectually when he stood

first

so he's figuring it out right now

then all these all of it and then he has

to see it as actually know that before

amazing

well listen again there took place and

through my wisdom it was revolutionary

nobody and that's the way you actually

learn it that's all you're teaching it

yourself

when the hindrance comes up okay and

then it comes up again you start to

notice right before you got pulled away

by the hindrance there's something there

right before that so the next time catch

it right there

and now you're caught for as long and

you started seeing how

process words would you say if you catch

it right precisely there that that's

catching at that addiction see well it

can be any one of the the links of

dependent origination depends on how

long and where you're catching it and

how long you've been staying with your

entrances before you know this bit but

it pretty much follows this pattern then

monks it occurred to me when what exist

those feeling them to be by what is

feeling conditioned that's another one

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careful attention there took place in me

a breakthrough by wisdom when there is

contact feeling comes to be feeling as

contact as its condition that monks it

occurred to me when exists does contact

come to me by what is contact condition

then monks through careful attention

there took place and me through a

breakthrough

when there are the success stories

contact comes to be this is the one

thing that is a little bit iffy for me

6m stores I mean that six different

thing and you had to figure out well he

knows what the cent stores are but he

had to be able to put them all together

and put him and show that when you go to

the diggin e kya that's the long

discourses when he first became a monk

had become a soda and he didn't have a

whole lot of time to do meditation and

he never got the fruition of sotapanna

anyway he went someplace with the Buddha

and they sat in meditation and he got

the fruition and he

the Buddha and he said you know this

dependent origination I don't know why

so many people think it's so difficult

this is easy is easy can be you could

see it and the Buddha scolded him and he

said it's not easy to see it took me a

long time to figure this time but when

they talked about how he saw the links

of dependent origination he didn't see

ignorant he didn't see formations and he

didn't see the success stories in the

description well ignorant it's pretty

easy why he didn't see that because he

was seeing that in each one of the links

the formations is the potential the

preparations for body speech and mind so

he's not gonna actually see that and the

success doors he's not gonna see all the

success doors he's going to see nama

Rupa he's gonna see mentality and

materiality so it's real interesting how

he only saw nine links of dependent

origination but if you there's places in

here that you can go and you can see 23

things so depend

I'll have to do for it

I'll try to get it she's mean that's

it's real interesting the way the way he

has laid out anyway

quite often when people are seeing the

links of dependent origination after

they had the experience of Nirvana when

they'd start seeing the links at first

you just see one one set of the links

for living backs was twenty four links

but when you become socket egami and

your mindfulness is good it's twice as

long and you become a Nanak I mean

you're starting to see more and more

clearly the links of dependent

origination that you'll see in three

times in a row so you really do start to

see them more clearly and you'll start

to see them in everything and everybody

around you you'll start recognizing the

impersonal nature of everyone and you'll

start seeing things more and more

clearly as process and impersonal

process

so

when you become our hot you see it four

times and you can spend a lot of time

going over that it's quite interesting

to do that sort of thing okay contact

comes when there are the six cents basis

contact comes to be contact as the six

cents basis as condition then monks it

occurred to me when what exists do the

six senses come to be by what are the

six sense bases conditioned then through

careful attention there took place in

Mia breakthrough by a wisdom when there

is mentality and materiality the six

base has come to be the sixth sense

basis mentality materiality is condition

so the actual experience is

talk about the twelve links of dependent

origination but the actual experiences

from almost everybody it is nine unless

they just want to add in but it is very

interesting sister came on she's putting

them both website Masuka Asia and she

has a little thing that shows you how to

make a chart of all the links of

dependent origination and how you

understand the things

an origination is going fit so if you

want to look that up I think she's

one of the things that happened in

Malaysia was there was a group of eight

Chinese that didn't speak English and

she still taught them the links of

dependent origination and they

understood it because of the translator

and that was that was really inspiring

to see that they actually did understand

the things then box it occurred to me

when what exists does the mentality and

materiality come to be by what is

mentality materiality condition that

monks through careful attention there

took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is consciousness

mentality materiality comes to be in

tality materiality has

consciousness as condition that monks it

occurred to me when what exists does

consciousness come to be but what is

consciousness conditioned then most

through careful attention there took

place in me a breakthrough by wisdom

when there are preparations

consciousness comes to be breath

consciousness has preparations as

condition that monk it occurred to me

when what is as to preparations come to

be by what our preparations condition

that machs through careful attention

there took place in me a breakthrough by

wisdom when there is ignorant

preparations come to be preparations

have a prince's condition thus with

ignorance as condition preparations come

to be with preparations

conditioned consciousness comes to be

origination of origination thus mom in

regard to things unheard before there

arose and mean vision knowledge wisdom

true wisdom and radiance

and then it goes through the I get a bit

lost with the tuning preparations of

consciousness the kind of jump from

consciousness to next link formations

the potential for body speech and that's

what that is the rest of it like things

falling on this is this it's the

potential for these things to arrive

that's why it gets kind of cloudy you

have to have them so they arise but this

is from past karmic things

Sankara

is formations

okay so now we'll go back to the suit to

that I was reading now we're going to go

to John friend

what is the first jhana your friend

quite secluded from sensual pleasures

secluded from unwholesome States a monk

enters upon and abides in the first

jhana

which is accompanied by thinking and

examining thought with joy and happiness

born of seclusion this is called the

first jhana friend how many factors does

the first jhana I have friend the first

jhana has five factors here when a monk

has entered upon the first jhana there

occurred thinking examining joy that is

how the first drama has five factors

friend how many factors are abandoned in

the first jhana

and how many factors are possessed

friend in the first jhana five factors

are abandoned and five factors are

possessed me here when a monk is entered

upon the first jhana sensual desire is

and it'll will is abandoned sloth and

torpor are abandoned restlessness and

anxiety are abandoned doubt is abandoned

these are the five hindrances aren't

they so when you get into the first

jhana and your mindfulness is good your

mind is very pure at that time and you

can actually obtain Nirvana at that time

if your mind is ready okay so this is

why the Buddha was so he spent so much

time talking about the job

explaining the joggins and the

importance of the jhanas in the end

groups reading Qaeda he called those

that attained Jonna Jonna gobby's and we

just learned he talks about John and ami

he said if you practice the way that he

teaches so that you don't have

while you're in that job when you die

you're gonna be reborn in a brahmaloka

and from there you are going to attain

our ad ship and get off the wheel of

samsara so everybody here is going to

unless you've taken you're going to be

that means absorption concentration one

pointing

because you are not letting go of the

craving you're suppressing the craving

with the concentration you'll be reborn

and a brahmaloka the next lifetime but

when the merit of being in that realm

expires you're going to be reborn in I

don't know how to justify they have

millions and millions of lifetime's that

they have to work purifying their mind

and there's there's they call them the

ten para me well there's three degrees

of the ten bearer me so that's actually

thirty bearer meaning that they have to

work on and it takes a long time

millions and millions of times

and according to the terror violence the

only people that really attain

Buddhahood they have to one they have to

have

potential to become an art hot within

seven days and renounced that they have

to have the willingness to give up their

life now what's happening now is there's

there's always been a big push by to

take a Bodhisattva vow and what did they

say about the bodies after them

oh I'd give up attaining Nibbana until

all beings can attain me vana

well the Buddha couldn't do it if he

could we wouldn't be so is that a

realistic kind of vow to take

some students that were very good at

remembering past life tanks and they ran

across Bodhisattvas every now and then

and they were talking to me about this

one the Burmese lychee was actually kind

of famous she was working with Powell

oxide oh and she said that what happens

to most people that take a bodhisattva

vow is they start figuring how really

hard it is and how many lifetimes they

have to go through it and they don't

have strong enough determination to

become a future Buddha

so they renounced the bow and then when

they renounce the vow they're not reborn

necessarily in a Buddha era and they are

now that mean that makes sense to my

mind to go through the millions of

suffering lifetimes that you sometimes

they really

painful stuff I haven't got the

determination to do it so I figured a

lot of people are like me so and it's

your choice

I don't try to make up anybody's mind

about it but I do try to give out the

information about a bodhisattva vow

because if you take a boat inside to

about it will stop you from attaining

Nibbana right now you'll get right up to

the edge of it I should never never

cross over and I have a couple of

friends that are Bodhisattvas and they

know when they understand he and his son

became sound and air I ordained them

that Simon arranges for a shorter period

of time for two weeks they would eat at

the same table with me and they were

always talking on that boat nice active

our date and the Bodhisattva vow

the movie sucked about what do you think

of the honest answer the father he gave

up the bunny that's just a personal

choice you can do it if you want or not

but understand what the chances of

becoming a future and what that is

expansion and contraction of the

universe the numbers I'm not positive

because Burmese and numbers

they're not real accurate sometimes but

I have read a commentary there are four

ah same kites for parts of my hot copper

one on sank idea in earth years equals

in years 10 with 160 zeros behind it

okay that's a long time in itself now

what happens is for one on st. paya

there's the expansion of the universe

now with the expansion of the universe

that's where beings live in that

universe but it will go for why not st.

aya and then it will stop for one on

sankarea and then the universe will

contract for one on st. area and that

will stop for one on same fact so for us

an Chaya equal one Maha Kaaba which is

ten with 560 zeros behind that's a real

long time

there are basically three kinds of

Buddha

there are all Buddha's but the length of

time that they took them to become a

Buddha is different and their lifespan

is different Gautama was considered an

intelligent Buddha it only took him four

Maha

and a hundred thousand lifetimes to

become a Buddha he lived where the

lifespan was not very long during the

time of the Buddha the average life

lifespan was right around 120 years so

it was it wasn't around all that long

and that's why and he gave it was always

giving Dhamma talks always it took huge

amounts of energy to give Dhamma talks

as much as he did the next kind of

Buddha is called the energetic Buddha no

it takes that Buddha it takes and their

lifespan is around 10