From: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KlFA3xQRzDk

Context: Throughout this transcript, Bhante Vimalaramsi is the speaker unless otherwise indicated.

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getting into some deep end in the ridge

this is the maja Tom Haas and kaya suit

the greater discourse on the destruction

of craving

thus have I heard on one occasion the

blessed one was living in Swati in

jeta's grove anathapindika's park now on

that occasion a pernicious view had

arisen in a month named sati son of a

fisherman as I understand the Dhamma

taught by the Blessed One it is the same

consciousness that runs and wanders

through the rounds of rebirth not

another that is a Brahman view that is

the idea of reincarnation which I know

some Buddhists really like but the

Buddha didn't teach reincarnation he

taught rebirth so several monks having

heard about this went to the monk sati

and asked him Fran sati is it true that

such a pernicious view had arisen in you

that's such a dumb question

are you so stupid as to believe this oh

yeah yeah I believe it

exactly so friends as I understand the

Dhamma taught by the Blessed one it is

the same consciousness that runs and

wanders through the rounds of rebirth

not another then those monks desiring to

detach him from that pernicious view

Preston question then cross questioned

and thus friend sati do not say so do

not misrepresent the Blessed One it is

not good to misrepresent the Blessed One

the Blessed One would not speak thus for

in many ways the Blessed One has stated

consciousness to be dependently arisen

since without a condition there's no

origination of consciousness you'll get

to understand that more in a little bit

yet although pressed and questioned and

cross-questioned those monks and by

those monks in this way the monks Adi

son of a fisherman still obstinately

adhered to that pernicious view and

continued to insist upon it since those

monks were unable to detach him from

that pernicious view they went to the

Blessed One after paying homage to him

they sat down at once

and told him all that had occurred

adding venerable sir since we could not

detach the monk sati son of a fisherman

from this pernicious view we have

reported this matter to the Blessed one

then the blessed one addressed a certain

monk less common monk tell the monk sati

son of a fisherman in my name that the

teacher calls him yes venerable sir he

replied and he went to the monk sati and

told him the teacher calls you friend

sati yes friend and he went to the

Blessed One after paying homage to him

sat down at one side the Blessed one

then asked him sati is it true that the

following pernicious view has arisen in

you as I understand the Dhamma taught by

the Blessed One it is this same

consciousness that runs and wanders

through the rounds of rebirth not

another exactly so venerable sir as I

understand the Dhamma taught by the

Blessed One it is this same

consciousness that runs and wanders

through the rounds of rebirth not

another what is that consciousness sati

venerable sir it is that which speaks

and feels and experiences here and there

the results of good

bad actions so this view is very strong

belief in a soul that keeps going up and

down depending on the actions of the

person misguided men to whom have you

ever known me to teach the Dhamma in

that way misguided man have I not stated

in many ways consciousness to be

dependently arisen since without a

condition there is no origination of

consciousness but you misguided men have

misrepresented us by your wrong

grasp and injured yourself and stored up

much demerit for this will lead to your

harm and suffering for a long time then

the blessed one addressed amongst us

monks what do you think has this monk

sati son of a fisherman kindled even a

spark of wisdom and this dhamma and

discipline

how could he venerable sir

no venerable sir when this was said the

monks at ease some of the fishermen sat

silent dismayed with shoulders drooping

and head down glum and without response

then knowing this the Blessed one told

him misguided man you will be recognized

by your own pernicious view

I shall question the monks on this

matter

then the blessed one addressed amongst

us monks do you understand the Dhamma

taught by me as this monk sati son of

the fisherman does when he misrepresents

us by his wrong grasp and injures

himself and stores up much demerit and

he's still remembered 2